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    Hi all,

    Has anyone had any experience with camouflage specialists in the UK? Iv been thinking long and hard about this, and I'd like to visit one and get a good regime together. As a guy I have zilch experience with these things, so I feel that I wont be able to do this sucessfully on my own.

    I know that masking flushes isnt the ideal solution, but I think it will help my mental state significantly. If I could just have the occassional night out void of rosacea flushing, then it would be so great!

    There were some really interesting ideas on the other thread, so thanks for that guys. But if anyone could point me in the direction of a good camouflage guru, then I would be forever in debt.

    Thanks!

    BB

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    the army has some good camouflage specialists, they can make you look like a man cause thats what you are, isnt it?

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    Not quite the contribution I was looking for Marc, but thanks all the same.

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    Bob, what about doing 1-2 more laser treatments and move on. You tolerate Dr. Patterson's 560 filter treatments, meaning you really can fight back most redness. Youve not finished the job yet, probably not far from complete remission but not quite there. Antibiotics for a couple of months might help you too, but do something about the erythema instead of covering it.

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    Excellent, great reply, thanks Marc.

    Ok, well I cant afford anymore laser treatments right now, but I hope to do a few more in the future. I know he has recently experiement with different machines, so I want to give it a while before I go back. It seems that things are moving forward with lasers and laser treatment, and I hope to benefit from these developments as and when they arise.

    But you're right, Im sure a few more treatments would help. I had my IPL three years ago, and Im sure with some good preflushing I could use a couple more to great effect.


    "Antibiotics for a couple of months might help you too"

    I wasnt aware that antibiotics were appropriate for flushing? Did you have any particular med in mind?


    "but do something about the erythema instead of covering it."

    Right now Marc, Im trying everything I approve as safe. 90% of the time my rosacea isnt a problem, but I know its always there under the surface, just waiting for an inappropriate moment to show itself. I only consider using camouflage creams because it appears to be an effective (and safe) solution to the occassional problems.

    As we have spoken about before, I work from home and have many little business 'irons in the fire'. Yet my confidence to aggressively pursue my goals is severely compromised by my inability to control rosacea flushing. I feel if its possible to cover this, transparently, then it may be something worth looking into.

    Believe me, if its not, I will drop the notion like a hot potato :wink:

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    Well, its practical having neural burning cause you are somewhat allarmed about flushings. Now when Ive been on accutane flushings never were much of a cosmetical a problem for me, I didnt push things that far where I had to leave with a face in fire.

    My impression is that people only stare at me while Im in remission - otherwise they just ignore me, thats the mentality here. If you look OK there are fish in the pound - otherwise you just fit into the category of old buggers with big swollen noses

    14 days on 500 mg clarithromycin extended release for some special occasion might be worth a try, just to see if you could get into a long remission and to see if its worth using post lasers. If you could get a script for Dr. Nase's oral metronidazole this is also a winner - but I doubt they will give you a script for this with mild rosacea. My hairdresser who got both clarithromycin and metronidazole against helicobacter pylori has been without symptoms for 10 months, so these substances do work wonders.

    Otherwise there isnt much touching the heart of rosacea actually, only low dose accutane but you dont seem to fit into the category.

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    I wont be trying accutane or clarithromycin, as I doubt the risk : benefit ration would be very favorable (if existent!).

    What you have to realise about my rosacea, Marc, is that it isnt this thats the direct problem. Its the fact that I have to live the 'rosaca friendly' lifestyle 24/7 to keep it at bay. Right now, you would never guess I even have rosacea. But this is because Iv been living by the book for that last three years. If I expose myself to triggers then you would see instantly my rosacea.

    So yeah, it is a lifestyle problem for me. Im not in any pain, and Im not sufferering an disfigurement. I just have to live like a hermit to prevent my rosacea from deteriorating (as it did so quickly in the past).

    I feel I need something that will allow me, if only on occassions, to break free of this rigid lifestyle, and get back to being myself. In the future Im quite sure that there will be something that will fit the bill nicely, but now I have to improvise a little. And again, if I do this using cosmetics then that is a compromise I shall have to make (believe me, Id prefer not to).


    "My impression is that people only stare at me while Im in remission - otherwise they just ignore me, thats the mentality here. If you look OK there are fish in the pound - otherwise you just fit into the category of old buggers with big swollen noses"

    This paragraph speaks volume Marc, about your current state of mind. I sincerely hope you have some success and find the treatment you need. It must frustrate you to see people like me, making a big deal of minor symptoms (compared to your own atleast). I pray the future has answers for both of us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Bear
    Hi all,

    Has anyone had any experience with camouflage specialists in the UK? Iv been thinking long and hard about this, and I'd like to visit one and get a good regime together. As a guy I have zilch experience with these things, so I feel that I wont be able to do this sucessfully on my own.

    I know that masking flushes isnt the ideal solution, but I think it will help my mental state significantly. If I could just have the occassional night out void of rosacea flushing, then it would be so great!

    There were some really interesting ideas on the other thread, so thanks for that guys. But if anyone could point me in the direction of a good camouflage guru, then I would be forever in debt.

    Thanks!

    BB
    Dear All,
    As some of you may know, for fear of reprisals, I rarely post (except in the Q&A section kindly provided by Geoffrey Nase) and am on holiday at present but I was asked by one of my patients (who emailed me and asked me if I could recommend a good camouflage practitioner so that they could reply to your question BB). I offered to post the reply personally because I wanted to share with you something which I think is sadly not well known but may be of great use to those affected.

    The British Red Cross have been providing a holistic, specialist, cost effective camouflage service for over 30 years now. Their service is simply fantastic and my patients who have Port Wine Stain use them between treatments to camouflage the condition. The web address is http://www.redcross.org.uk and follow the link to "Learn More About The Skin Camouflage Service" from the home page. They have over 250 clinics nationwide and there is bound to be one close by.

    I hope this information is of use to those seeking camouflage services in the UK. I say "Good on you British Red Cross for providing this essential service"!

    Kind regards,

    Peter
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    Dr Crouch,

    Many thanks for posting that link, and also to the member who contacted you. I had visited that site previously, but its good to get an endorsement from someone knowledgeable in treating rosacea like yourself.

    Also, I hope that any fishy rumours started on ESFB havent caused you to many problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Bear
    Dr Crouch,

    Many thanks for posting that link, and also to the member who contacted you. I had visited that site previously, but its good to get an endorsement from someone knowledgeable in treating rosacea like yourself.

    Also, I hope that any fishy rumours started on ESFB havent caused you to many problems.

    BB
    Dear BB,
    I would use The British Red Cross Skin Camouflage service with no hesitation (and they will almost certainly cost far less than the High Street / Beautician group who will be good but are not a "not for profit" outfit like The British Red Cross.

    Thank you for your concerns about the fishy rumours on ESFB - I just couldnt believe that rosacea sufferers would meddle with other people's anxieties like that - we had several patients call to ask after my health and also whether they should cancel their appointments because someone posted that we had a sewage pipe fracture and the clinic was knee high in you know what - one patient even called to say he'd take the day off work and offered to come and help in any way. Just irresponsible vandalism by whoever started such posts - lets be frank most of us (patients and doctors) are just trying to do an honest days work hoping to go home feeling like we have done a decent job by everyone and that is to tackle an extremely frustrating medical condition in the best way we know how. I hope the irresponsible vandals do stop.

    I do hope the British Red Cross have the answer you are seeking - most of the men I have referred to them have been very complimentary about how they were placed totally at ease by an organisation that knows that most men dont know anything about applying anything "cosmetic" and were just plain helpful.

    Kind regards,

    Peter
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