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    Hello,
    Who would absolutely advocate the use of grape seed extract (oligomeric proanthocyanidins) for rosacea.
    Is it right that you get less sensitive or the wall of the vessels gets much more stable :-/

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    Hello Diga,

    As a microvascular specialist who dealt with all types of vascular disorders, the clinical and experiemental research on all vascular disorders that include chronic dilation, damage to the vascular wall, increased capillary permeability, fragility of capillaries, angiogenesis and a myraid of other problems....... grape seed extract and pycnogenol are the only two OPC products to show major beneficial changes in the above mentioned symptoms. So, absolutely. I live by these.

    Now, has there ever been a study on rosacea and OPC''s? NO.

    Will there ever be a study on rosacea and OPC's? NO

    But, in science and medicine, we often extrapolate from other vascular disorders with similar blood vessel pathololgy and get the ball rolling that way.

    Anecdotal, but important. During my initial stages of severe rosacea the physicians kept on sticking me in the same vein on the right arm. this vein finally formed a large clot, changed color and you could actually see kinking and vascular damage by collapsed areas. This was no biggy though because clots in this part are never a problem or health threat. I had that clot (which was at least two inches long that you could see) for over 2.5 years. No change. I started taking grape seed extract/pycnogenol complex and the clot totally disappeared in less than 6 days. The vessel then regained normal shape and funciton within 3 weeks. When I showed my primary care doctor he could not believe that a clot like that would ever clear -- the current high tech oral anticlotting medications cannot do that. I told him what I did and he was truly a believer after that and started taking it himself. Anecdotal but fascinating.

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    Absolutely that is fascinatin.

    Just a quick supplement question if you have time Dr Nase; I am currently taking a day;

    1 x 10,000mg Milk Thistle
    3 x 1000mg flaxseed oil caps
    4 x 750mg MSM caps
    3 x high dose Glucosamine/Chrondroitin Sulphate caps providing optimum dose 1500mg/1200mg for my dodgy knees :?
    1 x prebiotic/probiotic multivit

    and just wondered if you would advice stopping taking any of those a week or so before i have laser treatment?

    Thanks x

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    I take grapeseed oil and ester c at DR Nases rec. dose. I have had a blood disorder and too was stuck in the same vien sooooo mant times, and still go very regulary for blood tests, since taking there suppliments the vien which was getting very tough and lumpy is completly normal, so in my humble opinion something is doing good.

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    Dr Nase,

    At what daily dosage do you take the grape seed extract?

    Thank you.

    Ghost

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    Sally,

    You should have no problem taking any of those products. If I may suggest, one of the interesting keys to MSM is it is supposed to help hair and skin. However, it is overrated. The way to analytically evaluate whether it is worth taking is if you see a change in your hair (thicknes, increased growth or faster growth). If you cant see this then it is not positively affecting the skin (much harder to do).

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    Ghost,

    I take a combo tablet (easty to swallow) of 50 mg (95%) grape seed extract plus 50 mg (90%) pycnogenol.

    I take two pills twice a day. That is the most common clinical dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drnase
    Ghost,

    I take a combo tablet (easty to swallow) of 50 mg (95%) grape seed extract plus 50 mg (90%) pycnogenol.

    I take two pills twice a day. That is the most common clinical dose.
    Dr. Nase,
    Can I ask where you get this product?
    Thanks,
    Nicole

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    Thannks Dr Nase.

    I am mainly taking the MSN for my hair as i had it cut very short after a hairdressing cock up. It is growing like a weed although my hair tends to grow fast anyhow, not sure whether its just me or the MSN but its grown around 5 inchs in three months.

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