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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamoverton View Post
    There is no cure to rosacea and what you're doing is nothing novel.
    This isnt the Rosacea section. I have SD. The principles of it might well be the same though and there is no cure for SD as well???

    Until we haven't tried doing NOTHING we can't really say we naturally have a skin condition. It's pure logic that we often fail to see. If I has Rosacea I would combine this regime with water fasting personally. I've heard of people doing well snake juice fasting with Rosacea.

    *I would argue its relatively novel concept in SD. The focus is always PUT something on your skin. And even when I have heard about water only still people PUT something on their skin. Also personally when I have ever tried water only I used cold splashes on my face or tried caveman when I barely washed and also was using shampoo as well. I bet almost no one has tried the simple concept of using long warm showers, exfoliating with your fingers and even rubbing oils from our heads and massaging them over our faces. Then doing this religiously for at least a few months. With ZERO and I mean Zero other things on our faces and hair. If you can say you did that then yes...its not novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    Dr George Moncrieff, the guy in the article is an interesting Dr if you look up his articles . He basically says he sees so many skin conditions from people over washing. He says the skin takes two days to recover after using soap. And he champions a non antibiotic approach to rosacea.

    https://www.guidelinesinpractice.co....455070.article

    This guy got me on the water only thing for SD. I did find his products useful but it's been the do nothing thing that has really helped me.


    https://youtu.be/S2AerLDpAGI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    Trevi,
    You may be on to something since it has been recommended when a rosacean who has been applying different treatments to just stop applying anything for a few days and only wash with water. It is phenomenal that you have success for three months. It would seem reasonable that if others try your method and say twenty or more confirm the same results, complete clearance after three months, you may have an incredible rosacea treatment that as far as I know hasn't been mentioned before about a three month trial of no rosacea treatments except washing in warm to hot water without soap or shampoo. There are some reports, and I would be hard pressed to find them, that I can recall that others have tried this for a few days and got good results. Sometimes, we just need to let our skin heal on its own, as as you have pointed out, it is possible rosaceans maybe over treating their skin with too many treatments, which borders on atopic dermatitis rather than rosacea. Thanks for your post and we shall see if others respond to this thread you have started to confirm the same results.

    I have recently tried ElaineA's recommendation and have been taking bath soaks she has recommended, for about a week now, and noticed it does indeed help, but I also am using the ZZ cream for my face and the Sulfur Butter for the back of my scalp and forehead. I am not quite ready to give up the sulphur treatments and only use water, but if you can get twenty or more reports in this thread I may give this some serious consideration. I have mentioned your initial post as a 'natural' treatment for SD hoping to draw attention to others about this on the RRDi website.
    Just wanted to say boric acid is really just a recent thing after nearly 3 months of only water. I mentioned it as a disclaimer that I had tried something else recently. The boric acid is more a nice quick attack on any fungal elements that SD is associated with. I wouldn't want to use it much. I saw it more as a treatment rather than normal daily regime. My big point is about doing nothing but getting clean with water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevi View Post
    No offence but when I say only water that means ONLY water. As long as you are putting some chemical concoction on your skin that nature never intended and having symptoms you cant say you have a skin problem. All you can say is you have a reaction to whatever you are putting on your face.
    The only reason Iím using soolantra is itís slightly moisturising and itís keeping demodex at bay.
    Zz cream made my skin worse as it has Lanolin in and Iím allergic to it.
    I tried using nothing at all and thatís when things got bad again.
    Do you use a moisturiser?

    Itís not just my face itís my hands and body that also canít use soap.
    I use to wash my hands with washing up liquid they was indestructible.
    But a course of antibiotics followed by Gastritis in the middle of the menopause
    has changed my entire skin.
    Iím trying to fix my guts but itís proving almost impossible.
    Saying that things have improved since coming off antacids.
    And other meds .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    The only reason Iím using soolantra is itís slightly moisturising and itís keeping demodex at bay.
    Zz cream made my skin worse as it has Lanolin in and Iím allergic to it.
    I tried using nothing at all and thatís when things got bad again.
    Do you use a moisturiser?

    Itís not just my face itís my hands and body that also canít use soap.
    I use to wash my hands with washing up liquid they was indestructible.
    But a course of antibiotics followed by Gastritis in the middle of the menopause
    has changed my entire skin.
    Iím trying to fix my guts but itís proving almost impossible.
    Saying that things have improved since coming off antacids.
    And other meds .

    I can only talk for myself and SD. But I think any detox can have a negative first reaction. As far as I know Soolantra is about attacking parasites? Thats not really the same thing as SD. I never believed SD has a parasite demonise mite whatever source. I dont even think the fungal element is that major and think for SD its just a secondary symptom of having a lot of oil polling on your face and pores and broken infected skin. Yes Boric has helped but really the issue is a skin integrity issue. The major thing I found with water only is my skin very rapidly felt 'stronger' less thin and delicate. My hair also seems stronger but that's maybe another issue.

    But yeah detox can sometimes mean bad reactions and I can only talk to Sd but i know when people come off steroids for SD it can be pretty awful and they have to detox from them.

    All I can really say is I stopped everything and relied on the oils of my face to moisturise my skin and slowly but surely my skin has improved daily. So NOTHING is my advice, not on your head, not on your skin. All I use is a crystal deodorant stick after my shower. IF you find your skin is too sry at first maybe try showering at night at first then by morning your skin should be naturally more moisturised. Our skin surely knows what to do more than us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevi View Post
    I can only talk for myself and SD. But I think any detox can have a negative first reaction. As far as I know Soolantra is about attacking parasites? Thats not really the same thing as SD. I never believed SD has a parasite demonise mite whatever source. I dont even think the fungal element is that major and think for SD its just a secondary symptom of having a lot of oil polling on your face and pores and broken infected skin. Yes Boric has helped but really the issue is a skin integrity issue. The major thing I found with water only is my skin very rapidly felt 'stronger' less thin and delicate. My hair also seems stronger but that's maybe another issue.

    But yeah detox can sometimes mean bad reactions and I can only talk to Sd but i know when people come off steroids for SD it can be pretty awful and they have to detox from them.

    All I can really say is I stopped everything and relied on the oils of my face to moisturise my skin and slowly but surely my skin has improved daily. So NOTHING is my advice, not on your head, not on your skin. All I use is a crystal deodorant stick after my shower. IF you find your skin is too sry at first maybe try showering at night at first then by morning your skin should be naturally more moisturised. Our skin surely knows what to do more than us?
    My lips are actually peeling sheets and it’s splitting the skin below my lips no moisturiser at all I think might be not an option. But yeah SD is not Demodex related but I think yeast does feed them hence you get both conditions co existing.
    Mine is my guts imbalance and my body over reacting but I think I have circulation problems that are effecting the skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    My lips are actually peeling sheets and itís splitting the skin below my lips no moisturiser at all I think might be not an option. But yeah SD is not Demodex related but I think yeast does feed them hence you get both conditions co existing.
    Mine is my guts imbalance and my body over reacting but I think I have circulation problems that are effecting the skin.
    Rubydo1,
    I just want to make sure you don't have another medical condition besides rosacea. Peeling, shedding lips can be a symptom of other medical conditions unrelated to rosacea. You may have already seen your doctor for this, but if not I would suggest seeing someone just to make sure you don't have an underlying condition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redvelvet View Post
    Rubydo1,
    I just want to make sure you don't have another medical condition besides rosacea. Peeling, shedding lips can be a symptom of other medical conditions unrelated to rosacea. You may have already seen your doctor for this, but if not I would suggest seeing someone just to make sure you don't have an underlying condition!
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    My lips are actually peeling sheets and itís splitting the skin below my lips no moisturiser at all I think might be not an option. But yeah SD is not Demodex related but I think yeast does feed them hence you get both conditions co existing.
    Mine is my guts imbalance and my body over reacting but I think I have circulation problems that are effecting the skin.
    My wife has peeling lips. She has lupus. Do you get tired easily? Lupus also has some SD like symptoms possibly as well. You should get that checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redvelvet View Post
    Rubydo1,
    I just want to make sure you don't have another medical condition besides rosacea. Peeling, shedding lips can be a symptom of other medical conditions unrelated to rosacea. You may have already seen your doctor for this, but if not I would suggest seeing someone just to make sure you don't have an underlying condition!
    I have seen the doctor they was less than helpful. But I’m under the dental hospital who have been very good. They have taken some blood tests on Tuesday they gave my some mouth wash and tooth past Unfortunately neither have helped. I’m having allergy testing in a couple of months. And I’m waiting to see another specialist. I’ve been drinking through a straw for months to stop my lips from getting even sorer.
    I had this all my life. My lips use to stick together as a child. Never got to the bottom of it it’s like an ezcema. The only thing I can think of is I’m allergic to Lanolin unfortunately that’s what’s in most lip balms so as a child the was putting lip balms on and making it worse.
    Now D3 is made from Lanolin and it’s added to everything milk,cereals,bread, I need D3 and calcium milk substitutes have added D3 so wether it’s an allergy to D3 I’m not sure if it’s possible. But it’s a nightmare at the moment on top of having rosacea. Vaseline just makes my lips sorer and I’ve tried every lip balm known to man. I’m just wiping them with moisturiser at the moment. I’ve bought some D3 made from algae but I’m a bit unsure about it as they feed it yeast to get the D3 not really sure what other sources you can get it from .
    And yes I have chronic fatigue never use to have was a hiker anda professional dog walker.
    But I’ve been tested for lupus last year.
    Last edited by Rubydo1; 20th February 2020 at 10:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    I have seen the doctor they was less than helpful. But Iím under the dental hospital who have been very good. They have taken some blood tests on Tuesday they gave my some mouth wash and tooth past Unfortunately neither have helped. Iím having allergy testing in a couple of months. And Iím waiting to see another specialist. Iíve been drinking through a straw for months to stop my lips from getting even sorer.
    I had this all my life. My lips use to stick together as a child. Never got to the bottom of it itís like an ezcema. The only thing I can think of is Iím allergic to Lanolin unfortunately thatís whatís in most lip balms so as a child the was putting lip balms on and making it worse.
    Now D3 is made from Lanolin and itís added to everything milk,cereals,bread, I need D3 and calcium milk substitutes have added D3 so wether itís an allergy to D3 Iím not sure if itís possible. But itís a nightmare at the moment on top of having rosacea. Vaseline just makes my lips sorer and Iíve tried every lip balm known to man. Iím just wiping them with moisturiser at the moment. Iíve bought some D3 made from algae but Iím a bit unsure about it as they feed it yeast to get the D3 not really sure what other sources you can get it from .
    And yes I have chronic fatigue never use to have was a hiker anda professional dog walker.
    But Iíve been tested for lupus last year.
    I sent you a private message

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