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    minerals and amino acids that rosaceans are often deficient in.
    Could you please reference a study to substantiate that claim?

    Classic rosaceans often suffer from SIBO which responds well to rifaximin. This antibiotic is poorly absorbed systemically, which strong suggests it is acting locally, in the gut.
    Studies can be found on pubmed and personally I can attest to the fact that rifaximin helps eradicate type two, ie P&P's. It did not have much impact on my severe flushing however.

    Symptoms will return if diet is not managed.

    A balanced, high fibre diet can be helpful as the gut microbes (particularly in the colon) produce a variety of anti inflammatory metabolites.
    That is the easy explanation.
    For those people who can manage more in depth explanations, here is a useful study.
    It does not pertain directly to rosacea nor flushing.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992428/

    The low carb diet is popular and can be useful in the short term, but really it should be stipulated that it is the highly refined carb diet that should be avoided long term with efforts made to incorporate high fibre and healthful foods. Resistant starch should be eaten as well.
    A slow introduction is often necessary with attention to trigger foods, such as citrus,tomatoes etc. the usual ones which affect a lot of people here.

    I have found a high fibre diet to be beneficial in reining in my flushing, particularly overnight flushing.

    I am not cured by any means, but I have established a fair degree of control, along with certain supplements.

    Low carb diets can increase flushing, particularly over night. Fasting, done properly, can be helpful. Fasting done with a dietary glucose deficiency can induce flushing.
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistica View Post
    Could you please reference a study to substantiate that claim?
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    redvelvet qualified her statement that a ‘high carb diet’ has no minerals or vitamins since carbs contain none. Many vegans and others have zero knowledge on what carbohydrate is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    redvelvet qualified her statement that a ‘high carb diet’ has no minerals or vitamins since carbs contain none. Many vegans and others have zero knowledge on what carbohydrate is.
    I respectfully disagree.
    There are two parts to the quoted statement.

    You are so right, and a high-carb diet is really lacking in a lot of the minerals and amino acids that rosaceans are often deficient in.
    Highly refined carb diets are terrible for anyone. However, many rosceans and flushers appear to eat quite healthy and perhaps even take a number of supplements.
    This makes the latter part of the statement false.

    There have never been any studies that I am aware of that show that rosaceans and or flushers have any amino acid deficiency either.
    It is very hard to become protein deficient in today's society, unless someone is following a poorly designed vegan diet.

    There is some speculation that glycine insufficiency may be factual, seeing most people focus on muscle meats.
    Glycine seems to have lots of benefits, including anti inflammatory actions.

    Non meat sources, such as Legumes for example have a fair amount of glycine if I recall correctly.

    All of the above can easily be found in medical literature including in pubmed studies.

    I am a stickler for detail as random statements with little to no scientific support leads people on wild goose chases.

    It is nothing personal.

    For what it is worth, I have had numerous tests over the years, and some are on going due to my particular case, and I have only officially been diagnosed with iodine insufficiency and border line low zinc and vitamin D. The latter is complex as vitamin D levels are influenced by inflammation.

    The iodine finding was important and supplementing significantly reined in my facial symptoms, particularly the flushing (along with the rest of my regime).
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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