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    Quote Originally Posted by mirradodga View Post
    Honest opinion everyone, Do you think that ZZ cream can shrink/lessen the appearance of open pores ?

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    Yes, but in my experience following the typical rosacea dietary advice of reducing sugar, no wheat, no rice, no dairy, works well in combination with Zhongzhou cream to reduce the pore size further. But it will have an effect by itself. Zhongzhou cream reduces redness which is very helpful to drawing attention away from pores as well.

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    I'm not sure if ZZ cream is for me. After using it every night my skin feels more dry, sore and red today
    it would make sense that some don't react well to the Menthol?


    I will try MSM-Gel instead
    Last edited by opare; 14th January 2020 at 08:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opare View Post
    I'm not sure if ZZ cream is for me. After using it every night my skin feels more dry, sore and red today
    it would make sense that some don't react well to the Menthol?


    I will try MSM-Gel instead
    Completely normal symptoms of early ZZ Cream use. Keep using it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRecluse View Post
    Completely normal symptoms of early ZZ Cream use. Keep using it!
    I will probably but not every night. I might have some issues with Demodex but not that much... No pustules or like eyelids issues. For now I will go back and hydrate the skin

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    Quote Originally Posted by opare View Post
    I will probably but not every night. I might have some issues with Demodex but not that much... No pustules or like eyelids issues. For now I will go back and hydrate the skin
    Me too Iím trying to calm mine think
    back down and Iíve gone back to soolantra for now. As I have demodex issues and ey issues.
    My skin just canít handle zz cream and menopause and the British weather at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    Me too I’m trying to calm mine think
    back down and I’ve gone back to soolantra for now. As I have demodex issues and ey issues.
    My skin just can’t handle zz cream and menopause and the British weather at the moment.
    how do you know that you have demodex for sure? I don't mean this in a negative way I'm just curious
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    Quote Originally Posted by opare View Post
    how do you know that you have demodex for sure? I don't mean this in a negative way I'm just curious
    Few years previous to me having rosacea. My eyelashes started to fall out. And started to grow at weird angles. I had no idea what it was then early autumn 2018 my eyes started to swell up and got incredibly dry. I got a stye that wouldn’t go away. Stupidly I went to the doc and he gave me some antibiotics which triggered Gastritis.
    Anyway after various opticians and useless hospital visits to which the lady who saw me who I mentioned Demodex to said “that’s an old wives tail”. I went to the community optician who said “I think you have a demodex issue”. I started with Optase tree wipes and eyelashes started to grow back. Funnily enough even the eye specialist didn’t know about Demodex causing blepharitis. (Sheffield Hallamshire Hospital Dr Matthews)
    About three months after that facial burning,spots, and sensitive skin started . About three months of only being able to wash my face with water didn’t help. I think I produce to much sebum. Plus super dry skin from being ill with Gastritis and menopause has mad things worse. I have deep pores so maybe 4 months soolantra isn’t enough. Or maybe I need oral tablets. But I doubt I could get oral tablets in the UK even from private Doctors.
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    Also seem to have some sort of autoimmune problem which is probably linked to the rosacea.
    Last edited by Rubydo1; 18th January 2020 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opare View Post
    how do you know that you have demodex for sure? I don't mean this in a negative way I'm just curious
    There is very good scientific evidence that everyone pretty much has demodex mites living on them (95% of adults). I suspect rosacea progresses partly because you have more than the average person (as the studies show), but once you have the vascular damage (e.g. thread veins, semi-permanent or permanent redness) even having relatively few mites makes the rosacea visible. I can tell when the number increase on my face because I get more signs of rosacea (e.g. redness) but also more itching. Sometimes I notice the itching before the redness. Then if I am thorough with treating them again the redness and itching go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antwantsclear View Post
    There is very good scientific evidence that everyone pretty much has demodex mites living on them (95% of adults). I suspect rosacea progresses partly because you have more than the average person (as the studies show), but once you have the vascular damage (e.g. thread veins, semi-permanent or permanent redness) even having relatively few mites makes the rosacea visible. I can tell when the number increase on my face because I get more signs of rosacea (e.g. redness) but also more itching. Sometimes I notice the itching before the redness. Then if I am thorough with treating them again the redness and itching go away.
    But you donít get the spots or eye problems?
    My skin is compromised all over my body at the moment due to illness that Iím still trying to get to the bottom of.

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