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    Quote Originally Posted by opare View Post
    Anyone else get flaky skin after using ZZ cream? I stopped using it every night and instead just applied it for a few seconds as a second cleansing almost every other night but my skin has started flaking. I use a moisturiser and follow up with grapeseed and rosehip oil. Which I leave on quite oily for the night. But it seems not enough or maybe thats causing it Idk.

    The air is very dry at the moment and me drinking alcohol and coffee probably didn't help. My diet has been nonexistent which can dehydrate you too Ive read

    can't use my regular milk cleanser as none of the pharmacists get it currently not sure why. So I'm just cleansing with grapeseed oil currently... man this condition
    Nope, are you using ZZ Cream diluted with water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antwantsclear View Post
    You flush less since using Zhongzhou cream? Well that will be because you've removed some of the demodex mites. But unfortunately it can be drying on the skin, so you need to address this issue as well e.g. almond oil can help.
    yes despite the flaking. I will try tamanu oil for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRecluse View Post
    Nope, are you using ZZ Cream diluted with water?
    yes I do. But I will go back maybe using it twice a week. The air here at home is very dry. I always sleep with a window open and all the cold air makes it dry. Maybe have to look into a humidifier

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    Quote Originally Posted by redvelvet View Post
    I'm going to call SP tomorrow and see if I can sell it internationally. If so, I could sell it on my website or even on Amazon although they really don't like people selling it on Amazon. It's supposed to be purchased from a licensed doctor or directly on their website. Let me look into and see if I can help. I really don't know the rules about selling anything online so I don't want to get in over my head!
    So I spoke with Standard Process and no one is allowed to sell or distribute SP outside of the US due to customs regulations. I also found out that from the USA, in order to place an order on their website, you need an access code which must be given to you by a licensed medical professional. I have this access code and would be happy to share with those in need who wish to order the whole food supplements directly from SP. It is actually illegal for people to be selling Standard Process on Amazon and other such websites, so I would highly discourage anyone from buying there, as the products are not guaranteed to be genuine. So if anyone needs the access code to order Standard Process, use the "contact me" page on my new website www.rosaceahelp.org.

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    Walter Freyne, the owner of Demodex Solutions, has assisted me in comparing the Original ZZ cream ingredients with the cosmetic version and has approved this comparison which is now published through the RRDi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    Walter Freyne, the owner of Demodex Solutions, has assisted me in comparing the Original ZZ cream ingredients with the cosmetic version and has approved this comparison which is now published through the RRDi.
    Hi Brady - that's an excellent comparison - thank you very much.

    There was an earlier conversation about how the dimenthicone was the key ingredient in the now defunct Dermalogica Shaving Oil that controlled mites - there's a study that shows this ingredient mechanically kills demodex mites, and there is no evidence that (unlike with isotretinoin) you can thus become immune to its effect over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antwantsclear View Post
    Hi Brady - that's an excellent comparison - thank you very much.
    There was an earlier conversation about how the dimenthicone was the key ingredient in the now defunct Dermalogica Shaving Oil that controlled mites - there's a study that shows this ingredient mechanically kills demodex mites, and there is no evidence that (unlike with isotretinoin) you can thus become immune to its effect over time.
    The Wikipedia article on PDMS (redirect from dimenthicone) states, "...In addition, PDMS is useful as a lice or flea treatment because of its ability to trap insects....PDMS is used variously in the cosmetic and consumer product industry as well. For example, PDMS can be used in the treatment of head lice on the scalp...Dimethicone is the active ingredient in a liquid applied to the back of the neck of a cat or dog from a small one time use dose disposable pipette. The parasite becomes trapped and immoblised in the substance and thus breaks the life cycle of the insect. One such example of commercial product is marketed by Bob Martin and called Spot On...."

    So 'mechanically' demodex become 'trapped and immobilized'?

    Do you have any links mentioning dimenthicone for demodex?

    Not to even mention the Sublimed Sulfur Sublimate, but I do think we should give this an honorable mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    Walter Freyne, the owner of Demodex Solutions, has assisted me in comparing the Original ZZ cream ingredients with the cosmetic version and has approved this comparison which is now published through the RRDi.

    Oh my word no wonder I’ve been having issues
    LANOLIN it’s the one thing I’m 100 % allergic too I was hospital tested.
    This is the problem when you buy things that have not got full ingredients list.
    A lot of people are allergic to lanolin it’s a known allergen for people with sensitivity.
    So people that are struggling might be allergic to the lanolin.
    Right so I don’t know what I’m going to do now.

    Plus Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in the cosmetic version????
    Last edited by Rubydo1; 28th January 2020 at 01:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    The Wikipedia article on PDMS (redirect from dimenthicone) states, "...In addition, PDMS is useful as a lice or flea treatment because of its ability to trap insects....PDMS is used variously in the cosmetic and consumer product industry as well. For example, PDMS can be used in the treatment of head lice on the scalp...Dimethicone is the active ingredient in a liquid applied to the back of the neck of a cat or dog from a small one time use dose disposable pipette. The parasite becomes trapped and immoblised in the substance and thus breaks the life cycle of the insect. One such example of commercial product is marketed by Bob Martin and called Spot On...."

    So 'mechanically' demodex become 'trapped and immobilized'?

    Do you have any links mentioning dimenthicone for demodex?

    Not to even mention the Sublimed Sulfur Sublimate, but I do think we should give this an honorable mention.
    Yes, I remember reading in an academic article I'm fairly sure that the mechanism of dimethicone is to trap and immobilize rather than for instance to chemically kill/poison the mites. I actually have a bottle of the neat ingredient, dimethicone, which needs to be diluted with a carrier oil (e.g. almond oil) before you can apply it to the skin. I can't find the link for the article now, but it's easy to find links discussing dimethicone killing other parasites.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4204056/

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    Thanks for the ingredients list you have probably saved me from doing more damage.
    No wonder my skin was burning and getting so sore.
    I’m still struggling to calm it down .
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