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    Default Follicular scaling with seb derm?

    Does anyone with seb derm experience scaling that is more within the follicle? Like a white keratin scale protruding out of the pore? These are very prominent around the nose and chin for me and very difficult to remove because they literally stick out of the pore. Im trying to figure out whether this is more characteristic of demodex or seb derm. Any type of moisturizer causes burning and small pimples. If I were to rub my finger across the areas a bunch of dead skin rolls off. Ive been told both seb derm and demodex may be causing my issue but Im curious what others with seb derm experience when it comes to the flaking.

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    Default Efa deficiency

    Hello my fiends,

    I had the same exact problem for 2 years! Been to many docs all diagnosed with seb derm but itís not actually seb derm, itís a condition that has very similar symptoms to seb derm. i recently discovered it all has to do with diet and deficiencies, I didnít know all of this and had been suffering for more than 2 years until I recently randomly increased my intake of EFAs with chia seeds and days after I started to see the scaling fading away! I continued and took the recommended daily allowance of EFAs for a healthy person and the scaling never came back now after 3 months! Left me with super super smooth skin all around my face, I used to be jealous of my brothers smooth skin but now I know I had developed deficiencies when I was on unhealthy diet and etc.

    Go get your EFAs from chia seeds and natural organic butter. Whinin 2 weeks youíll start to see results and you can thank me later. Thereís a reason they are called ESSENTIAL fatty acids (EFAs)

    You can google EFA deficiency and youíll see it for yourself; dermatitis, scaling, dry yet oily skin(combination skin) hair loss, keratin plugs, chronic loss of tissue water!

    Go get it tiger.
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    Default Doesn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peycali View Post
    Hello my fiends,

    I had the same exact problem for 2 years! Been to many docs all diagnosed with seb derm but itís not actually seb derm, itís a condition that has very similar symptoms to seb derm. i recently discovered it all has to do with diet and deficiencies, I didnít know all of this and had been suffering for more than 2 years until I recently randomly increased my intake of EFAs with chia seeds and days after I started to see the scaling fading away! I continued and took the recommended daily allowance of EFAs for a healthy person and the scaling never came back now after 3 months! Left me with super super smooth skin all around my face, I used to be jealous of my brothers smooth skin but now I know I had developed deficiencies when I was on unhealthy diet and etc.

    Go get your EFAs from chia seeds and natural organic butter. Whinin 2 weeks youíll start to see results and you can thank me later. Thereís a reason they are called ESSENTIAL fatty acids (EFAs)

    You can google EFA deficiency and youíll see it for yourself; dermatitis, scaling, dry yet oily skin(combination skin) hair loss, keratin plugs, chronic loss of tissue water!

    Go get it tiger.
    This kid replied to one of my posts and emailed me this theory few months ago then didn't reply back to my email. He has had theories in the past. None of them work. 3 of us with this condition tried this and it didn't work at all and we didn't have fatty acid defeciency like he claims. His condition probably just somehow stopped for some unknown reason and he is a lot younger then us, the body tends to heal itself better in you're early twenties. He always comes up with I got the cure! like he is a miracle man. Not a good approach when dealing with desperate people who are losing their eyebrows from this very rare condition that over 15 derms we've all seen know nothing about. They think it's seb derm yet no meds, creams, diets, defeciencies for seb derm ever work on us. Most of us suffer daily and lose over 20 brow hairs a day till it becomes 80% of diffuse loss then it's about 3-5 hairs till most of it is gone. It itches chronically, usually shows no erythema (redness), but scale can vary, so can flakes. Its not any of the alopecias but who knows, could be an undiscovered type, as biopsies don't show scarring and hairs do grow back but fine like vellus hairs then turn into thick terminal hairs that do not look the same as was once there. They tend to fall out weeks later also, some stay in for a while. The hairs move directions, become wirey for some reason and simply fall out with no contact. Some people's fall out at faster rates then others. It could be a form of alopecia no one knows about but I'm also losing eyelashes also but there's no symptoms but itch and tingles, feels like something is in the eye. It really is a horrible condition that you cannot really camoflague if you're a male. Men and women suffer from this condition. 17 months for me, close to 3 years for people I'm in close contact with also.

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    Default It Could Be Both!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capture531 View Post
    Does anyone with seb derm experience scaling that is more within the follicle? Like a white keratin scale protruding out of the pore? These are very prominent around the nose and chin for me and very difficult to remove because they literally stick out of the pore. Im trying to figure out whether this is more characteristic of demodex or seb derm. Any type of moisturizer causes burning and small pimples. If I were to rub my finger across the areas a bunch of dead skin rolls off. Ive been told both seb derm and demodex may be causing my issue but Im curious what others with seb derm experience when it comes to the flaking.
    It could be both but I really hope I'm wrong. I have been diagnosed with Sebboreah Dermatitis but derms say no to demodex; however, I'm convinced I have a problem with that too. I was also diagnosed with a scarring alopecia via scalp biopsy. It's called Lichen Planopilaris and is known to co-exist with SD in 50% of people who have LPP. Demodex often occurs with SD as well so I think I hit the "jackpot". Ugh...

    Based on your description, it sounds JUST LIKE SD, however my SD is more moist than flaky. It looks pale and grossly creamy. I sometimes see a different looking excrement that is whiter and more translucent come out of my pores which I suspect may be the dreaded "D".

    As far as follicular plugging, all the above conditions cause it. The thing with LPP is that the plugging/scaling is difficult to remove. Yours sounds like this but you mentioned that you had a scalp biopsy which was negative for scarring alopecia/LPP? I suppose difficult to remove follicular scaling can be from "D" too but I"m no expert and just basing all this on my own experience.

    You should see your dermatologist and ask for a scraping of skin/scalp to determine if you have any co-existing conditions with the SD. I hope you don't. Praying for you! Let me know how you make out.

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