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    Hello all

    Now that my flushing is under control, (thanks to LDN), I am looking at something to help with the look of my skin.

    I do have a lot of thread veins and would like your opinion on the above if you have used it.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judworth View Post
    Hello all

    Now that my flushing is under control, (thanks to LDN), I am looking at something to help with the look of my skin.

    I do have a lot of thread veins and would like your opinion on the above if you have used it.

    Thanks in advance.

    J

    Funny enough, I actually do use this. I started using this literally when I first got rosacea 7 years ago. I haven't stopped since. This is the only topical I can put on my face that won't aggrevate it. Whether this is because I started using it so long ago when my rosacea was just mild flushing, I don't know. I don't know whether it makes my skin better but I use it as a security blanket, just in case. I just apply it as night.

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    I've tried many creams, though I'm not sure I've tried this one. For reducing redness, the best cream I've found is Zhongzhou cream. Other than medications, Zhongzhou has been the best for me in reducing redness. It can be a little drying, so I counterbalance that with Skinceuticals Epidermal Repair Cream.

    www.demodex.co.uk is good place to buy Zhongzhou cream

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    Thank you both.

    It's not redness, it's just the look of the thread veins I want help with, I just want something that will nourish and plump my skin..............perhaps it's just not possible???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judworth View Post
    Thank you both.
    It's not redness, it's just the look of the thread veins I want help with, I just want something that will nourish and plump my skin..............perhaps it's just not possible???
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    Judworth,
    If you are referring to Phenotype 3 (Telangiectasia or spider veins) the most talked about treatments are laser (particularly Vein Wave), microfocused ultrasound, tranexamic acid solution, endothelyol, brimonidine 0.33% gel to target the erythema followed by laser/light-based therapy for the telangiectasias, dermocosmetic treatment, and, of course, a significant number of 'spider vein' OTC treatments, chief among these are Vita-K Professional, Horned Owl Vari-K Spider Vein Facial Cream, Dermal-K Cream and number of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    Judworth,
    If you are referring to Phenotype 3 (Telangiectasia or spider veins) the most talked about treatments are laser (particularly Vein Wave), microfocused ultrasound, tranexamic acid solution, endothelyol, brimonidine 0.33% gel to target the erythema followed by laser/light-based therapy for the telangiectasias, dermocosmetic treatment, and, of course, a significant number of 'spider vein' OTC treatments, chief among these are Vita-K Professional, Horned Owl Vari-K Spider Vein Facial Cream, Dermal-K Cream and number of others.

    Wow! Brady that's some info thank you!

    I would not attempt any kind of laser treatment again as for neuropathic rosacea it is so problematic!

    A topical cream to reduce the look would be a good place to start! As my face rarely flushes now, it's the look of my skin I would like to improve!!

    Do you or anyone else have any experience of such creams?

    J
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    * RLT Journey!" (Sept 09) **Using Britebox Revive..(Stopped ).

    * Use Optimel & Ilast cream for MGD Ocular rosacea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judworth View Post
    Do you or anyone else have any experience of such creams?
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    Basically, I have tried the horse paste and it works fairly well. I am not trying the cosmetic ZZ cream, and have loved the original ZZ cream and used it for years. No experience with spider vein creams/gels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judworth View Post
    Do you or anyone else have any experience of such creams?
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    Basically, I have tried the horse paste and it works fairly well. I am now trying the cosmetic ZZ cream, and have loved the original ZZ cream and used it for years. No experience with spider vein creams/gels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judworth View Post
    Wow! Brady that's some info thank you!

    I would not attempt any kind of laser treatment again as for neuropathic rosacea it is so problematic!

    A topical cream to reduce the look would be a good place to start! As my face rarely flushes now, it's the look of my skin I would like to improve!!

    Do you or anyone else have any experience of such creams?

    J
    I agree about avoiding laser - it's not worth the risk.

    Zhongzhou cream can help reduce the appearance of thread veins because that is what the redness is... The thread veins are just lager more prominent versions of the redness. The Zhongzhou cream certainly won't completely remove their appearance but it can reduce the appearance quite a lot in my experience. The other cream I mentioned does plump out the skin, though expensive - which is why I use the two creams in combination.

    I've also found almond oil mixed with tea tree oil ratio 4:1, maybe once a week, can increase plumpness in combination with the above. If you only use the oils on your skin though there is a risk of drying.

    What parts of the face are you most concerned about in terms of the thread veins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by antwantsclear View Post
    I agree about avoiding laser - it's not worth the risk.

    Zhongzhou cream can help reduce the appearance of thread veins because that is what the redness is... The thread veins are just lager more prominent versions of the redness. The Zhongzhou cream certainly won't completely remove their appearance but it can reduce the appearance quite a lot in my experience. The other cream I mentioned does plump out the skin, though expensive - which is why I use the two creams in combination.

    I've also found almond oil mixed with tea tree oil ratio 4:1, maybe once a week, can increase plumpness in combination with the above. If you only use the oils on your skin though there is a risk of drying.

    What parts of the face are you most concerned about in terms of the thread veins?
    Thank you for your reply.

    I have had laser in the past, over a few years (just a short-term fix) and certainly not the best choice for neuropathic rosacea!

    I don't have redness as such, the thread veins can be concealed under makeup, however I would like them softened if possible???

    I am just very wary of so many creams as I don't want to cause my skin/face and unnecessary trauma!

    Tea tree oil would send my face into orbit I am afraid!!

    Have you tolerated Zhongzhou cream well?

    J
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    * RLT Journey!" (Sept 09) **Using Britebox Revive..(Stopped ).

    * Use Optimel & Ilast cream for MGD Ocular rosacea.

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