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    So a few hours ago I had my first laser treatment. I experienced the Cutera XEO Genesis trupulse Nd:YAG laser - well, that's what I think it was. You see, it's really confusing knowing exactly what laser type you get because the names are interchangeable and some are settings or "modes" like the Genesis. Like I have no idea if the Genesis is part of the Excel V or just part of the XEO machine... because the XEO has two lasers on it. But the whole machine was definitely the XEO and the handheld laser was the one on the right in this picture on Cutera's website (http://cutera.com/product-landing-pages/xeo.aspx), which looks surprisingly similar to the ExcelV.

    How was it? It hurt like nuts. Likening it to an elastic band hitting your face would be a gross understatement. No. This felt like someone was occasionally stabbing my nerve-endings with a needle whilst my skin was being burnt with an iron. You could feel threads of really sharp pain run over your skin. Not a fun experience.

    But the pain is only present when the laser is on your skin and the heat dissipates in minutes of downtime. After an hour my skin's redness already settled down to a 'normal' state, i.e. as it was before my session. (No bruising of course.) Right now it looks ok, but I'll wait a while until I make any big conclusions since first results won't show before a few days. And the whole treatment requires 3-6 sessions over months for full results.

    Specs: Nd:YAG 1064nm wavelength, 15J/cm2, 0.3ms pulse time, at 10Hz or 10 pulses/s . Overall it took about 20-25 mins for my ENTIRE face.


    I'm continuing my daily Soolantra and Rozex with permission from my laser specialist btw. Pics (before/after) maybe later this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BraceYourself View Post
    So a few hours ago I had my first laser treatment. I experienced the Cutera XEO Genesis trupulse Nd:YAG laser - well, that's what I think it was. You see, it's really confusing knowing exactly what laser type you get because the names are interchangeable and some are settings or "modes" like the Genesis. Like I have no idea if the Genesis is part of the Excel V or just part of the XEO machine... because the XEO has two lasers on it. But the whole machine was definitely the XEO and the handheld laser was the one on the right in this picture on Cutera's website (http://cutera.com/product-landing-pages/xeo.aspx), which looks surprisingly similar to the ExcelV.

    How was it? It hurt like nuts. Likening it to an elastic band hitting your face would be a gross understatement. No. This felt like someone was occasionally stabbing my nerve-endings with a needle whilst my skin was being burnt with an iron. You could feel threads of really sharp pain run over your skin. Not a fun experience.

    But the pain is only present when the laser is on your skin and the heat dissipates in minutes of downtime. After an hour my skin's redness already settled down to a 'normal' state, i.e. as it was before my session. (No bruising of course.) Right now it looks ok, but I'll wait a while until I make any big conclusions since first results won't show before a few days. And the whole treatment requires 3-6 sessions over months for full results.

    Specs: Nd:YAG 1064nm wavelength, 15J/cm2, 0.3ms pulse time, at 15Hz or 15 pulses/s . Overall it took about 20-25 mins for my ENTIRE face.


    I'm continuing my daily Soolantra and Rozex with permission from my laser specialist btw. Pics (before/after) maybe later this weekend.
    Thanks for the update!

    Ouch, 1064 nm must have hurt like hell. Do you know why they did not opt for 532 nm?

    Keeping fingers crossed and hoping you will heal fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladycappuccino View Post
    Thanks for the update!

    Ouch, 1064 nm must have hurt like hell. Do you know why they did not opt for 532 nm?

    Keeping fingers crossed and hoping you will heal fast.
    I think they said that they've had the most success using 1064nm with their patients which is hard to argue against tbh. Although it all comes down to how effective it is on my skin. So depending on the preliminary results they could of course decide to add or switch to a 532nm wavelength. I actually read about some place that alternates the two periodically.

    Much appreciated, ladycappuccino. But it's really not all that bad!

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    Not certain if it's related, but my nose tingling was coming on before taking the laser and the last two days have been without symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraceYourself View Post
    So a few hours ago I had my first laser treatment. I experienced the Cutera XEO Genesis trupulse Nd:YAG laser - well, that's what I think it was. You see, it's really confusing knowing exactly what laser type you get because the names are interchangeable and some are settings or "modes" like the Genesis. Like I have no idea if the Genesis is part of the Excel V or just part of the XEO machine... because the XEO has two lasers on it. But the whole machine was definitely the XEO and the handheld laser was the one on the right in this picture on Cutera's website (http://cutera.com/product-landing-pages/xeo.aspx), which looks surprisingly similar to the ExcelV.

    How was it? It hurt like nuts. Likening it to an elastic band hitting your face would be a gross understatement. No. This felt like someone was occasionally stabbing my nerve-endings with a needle whilst my skin was being burnt with an iron. You could feel threads of really sharp pain run over your skin. Not a fun experience.

    But the pain is only present when the laser is on your skin and the heat dissipates in minutes of downtime. After an hour my skin's redness already settled down to a 'normal' state, i.e. as it was before my session. (No bruising of course.) Right now it looks ok, but I'll wait a while until I make any big conclusions since first results won't show before a few days. And the whole treatment requires 3-6 sessions over months for full results.

    Specs: Nd:YAG 1064nm wavelength, 15J/cm2, 0.3ms pulse time, at 10Hz or 10 pulses/s . Overall it took about 20-25 mins for my ENTIRE face.


    I'm continuing my daily Soolantra and Rozex with permission from my laser specialist btw. Pics (before/after) maybe later this weekend.
    Excellent post, thanks for sharing with your experience, please keep us updated!

    To clarify, you got this purely for flushing right? I got the Nd:YAG done purely for flushing many years ago with Dr Crouch (RIP). I am unsure whether it truly helped or not, but he allowed me to get it for free as I was only a student and poor. A truly great man and pioneer.

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    @realwork Sort of. It's primarily for the diffuse redness around my face. (Or are those two terms interchangeable??)

    P.S. Won't be posting pic update yet, mainly because I don't see any noticeable improvements.

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    Went to the specialist for a checkup to spot any irregularities caused through the laser. No blisters or rashes so that's good to know. Although I still don't see ANY improvement so I told him to basically focus on the capillaries when we another treatment in about 3 weeks. If I haven't seen any positives afterwards then I'm going to completely give up with the treatment. An ultimatum.

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    Well, it's been over a month and I still don't see any improvements from my laser session. Tomorrow's session will be aimed at destroying the telangiectasia around my nose as well as tackling the diffuse redness of course. I'm very sceptical that it will do anything though. And if I'm right then I'll stop the laser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraceYourself View Post
    Well, it's been over a month and I still don't see any improvements from my laser session. Tomorrow's session will be aimed at destroying the telangiectasia around my nose as well as tackling the diffuse redness of course. I'm very sceptical that it will do anything though. And if I'm right then I'll stop the laser.
    Had anybody had your face analyzed prior to the treatment as far as the teleangiectasia is concerned? There are nowadays devices which enable the doctors to tell/measure how deep are the vascular changes. This greatly helps with selecting the proper filters and settings for the laser treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladycappuccino View Post
    Had anybody had your face analyzed prior to the treatment as far as the teleangiectasia is concerned? There are nowadays devices which enable the doctors to tell/measure how deep are the vascular changes. This greatly helps with selecting the proper filters and settings for the laser treatment.
    Nope.

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