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    Default Dermol cream for dry, oily, yellow skin? [Seb Derm]

    So a couple of weeks ago I developed a few dry red patches on my cheek. For four days I applied E45 to the patches, but it had no effect whatsoever. Thereafter, I used Dermol, an emollient cream I had been prescribed by my GP back in early 2016 (for a similar outbreak of dry skin patches). Within two days, the Dermol had almost completely eradicated the redness; however, once the redness subsided, I started to get outbreaks of dry, oily yellow flakes across my face, especially my left cheek and under my left eye. For over a week, I have been continually applying Dermol to the affected areas, and although it seems to help mitigate the redness that underlies the clumps, it has had only a slight impact on the oily, yellow flakes on the skin.

    From what I've read online, I have little doubt that I am suffering from seb derm. However, this discovery doesn't give me much closure regarding how the symptoms of seb derm can be ameliorated. I've had seb derm outbreaks in the winter months during previous years, but it never was as bad as it is now. I've avoided exfoliating the patches, but the Dermol cream doesn't seem to be able to dislodge the flakes. Moreover, whenever I feel like it is healing up in one area, it seems to spring up in another part of my face: When it first appeared less than two weeks ago, the patches were exclusively located around my left nasal fold; now, these patches are across a large part of my left cheek, on my left eyelid and underneath my left eye.

    Moreover, from reading this forum I've come across several alternate treatments for seb derm, although admittedly I am concerned about applying any new creams or lotions to my face. The reason for this is because I've just recently had a broken blood vessel, caused, I suspect, by excessive use of skin products, removed from my face. Interestingly, the blood vessel was removed from my left cheek - which is one of the main areas in which the seb derm patches are located. I'm not sure if the use of IPL could trigger such an outbreak, but it might explain why the dry patches don't appear on the right side of my face.

    That all being said, what I want to know is, has anyone else used Dermol to treat seb derm? Will it help lessen the oily flakes if I continue to use it? Would it be better just to leave the seb derm alone? And finally, are there any other seb derm treatments that would be applicable to someone who is prone to broken blood vessels?

    Finally, I should note that I have also been a regular user of T-Gel since 2015, when I had yellow flakes in my hair. It seems to have helped prevent the seb derm from reaching my scalp, although the last time I tried to use it on my face (for massive flakes in my eyebrows in 2016) it caused a massive red line to appear in the area of the face that was treated, which makes me averse to using it again.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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    Default Alternatives to using Neutrogena Tgel on face

    Dermol does not contain an antifungal only an antibacterial active ingredient. It is not marketed for Seb Derm only atopic dermatitis which may have elevated staph on the skin. It will not reduce malassezia on your skin.

    Coal Tar:

    I’ve used Psoriasin Coal tar gel (3 times a day for 2 days) in the past on small Seb Derm spots. Post IPL your skin can’t handle an alcohol based Coal Tar. There’s also a cream and an ointment by Psorasin. Also another company MG217. Remember coal tar will increase your chances of sun damage.

    The American Academy of Dermatology recommends:

    “Adults and adolescents: Skin care
    What you need

    Soap (or cleanser) that contains 2% zinc pyrithione
    Fragrance-free moisturizer
    Scale softener, such as a cream that contains coal tar or salicylic acid and sulfur”

    https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/...ermatitis#tips

    Seems like most people on this forum prefer Piroctone Olamine & climbazole found in European cleansers and creams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRed77 View Post
    Dermol does not contain an antifungal only an antibacterial active ingredient. It is not marketed for Seb Derm only atopic dermatitis which may have elevated staph on the skin. It will not reduce malassezia on your skin.

    Coal Tar:

    I’ve used Psoriasin Coal tar gel (3 times a day for 2 days) in the past on small Seb Derm spots. Post IPL your skin can’t handle an alcohol based Coal Tar. There’s also a cream and an ointment by Psorasin. Also another company MG217. Remember coal tar will increase your chances of sun damage.

    The American Academy of Dermatology recommends:

    “Adults and adolescents: Skin care
    What you need

    Soap (or cleanser) that contains 2% zinc pyrithione
    Fragrance-free moisturizer
    Scale softener, such as a cream that contains coal tar or salicylic acid and sulfur”

    https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/...ermatitis#tips

    Seems like most people on this forum prefer Piroctone Olamine & climbazole found in European cleansers and creams.
    Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was uncertain about the efficacy of Dermol for treating seb derm, so I guess I'll stop using it now. As for the products you've mentioned, I already use coal tar as a shampoo for my scalp, although I don't want to use it on my face because the last time I did that I ended up with a large red line down my cheek; in the case of Piroctone Olamine and Climbazole, I'll try and get ahold of them however I might defer from trying them out because I'm worried it might upset the skin in the area where I had IPL done. In the meantime, do you think leaving the skin alone and putting no products on it would help the malassezia subside? Or does the Dermol help prevent the seb derm from spreading?

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    Default Gentle Piroctone Olamine cleanser

    This is the mildest cleanser with piroctone olamine designed for sensitive skin.

    Eucerin DermatoCLEAN Mild Cleansing Milk
    https://int.eucerin.com/products/der...cleansing-milk

    As for climbazole there’s

    Mustela Foam Shampoo for Newborns, Baby Shampoo, Cradle Cap Treatment

    https://www.mustela.co.uk/content/Foam-shampoo-newborns


    I also recommend you treat Seb Derm internally with Innéov Duology 2-in-1 Scalp Revitalizer & Anti-Dandruff 30 caps

    https://www.inneov.es/productos/inneov-duology#

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inneov-Duology-2en1-Scalp-2x30caps/dp/B075FDQKZR
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRed77 View Post
    This is the mildest cleanser with piroctone olamine designed for sensitive skin.

    Eucerin DermatoCLEAN Mild Cleansing Milk
    https://int.eucerin.com/products/der...cleansing-milk

    As for climbazole there’s

    Mustela Foam Shampoo for Newborns, Baby Shampoo, Cradle Cap Treatment

    I also recommend you treat Seb Derm internally with Innéov Duology 2-in-1 Scalp Revitalizer & Anti-Dandruff 30 caps

    https://www.caretobeauty.com/us/inne...druff-30-caps/
    Thank you once again for your suggestions. I'll try and pick up the Eucerin Cleansing Milk on the weekend. In the meantime, should I continue to apply Dermol to the affected areas?

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    Default Post IPL with seb derm

    Can you ask the doctor who did the IPL?

    If it were me I’d consult the doctor. I’ve never had IPL I can’t answer from experience.

    La Roche Posay and Avene both carry a safe moisturizer for intolerant skin.

    https://www.avene.co.uk/face/product...treme-emulsion

    https://www.laroche-posay.us/toleria...422405318.html (only the US version not the European one as it has shea butter)

    This is more of a healing ointment not a moisturizer. La Roche Posay Cicaplast:

    http://www.laroche-posay.com/product...ast-p2210.aspx

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