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    Yeh don't worry about the red led light as there is no evidence or cases of fat loss. There's no heat or radiation / uv so it's just not possible. Don't hold it too close and not for too long. It can make you red and flushy after. But it's the long term benefits that are what we want.
    Yeh do your research about laser! I have fix my face up pretty good now. But still have long way to go.
    I didn't know about these side effects back then so it's just how the world works Isn't it.
    Everything else in my life is perfect except damage and rosacea. This world will never let you be perfect lol.

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    Hey Jenn, do you still use the green light at all or just red?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaymondS View Post
    Hey Jenn, do you still use the green light at all or just red?
    It's all red light these days. I used the green consistently for about 3 months and while it felt nice and soothing, it didn't actually seem to be doing anything at all for my skin. My husband liked to turn it on and point it against a wall to enjoy the color. And, finally, his mom took it to see if it would help even out her skin tone. But, as a rosacea person, I found the green light to be ineffective. Red light for me really helps keep inflammation at bay and gives me a greater tolerance to heat and sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaymondS View Post
    Yes I know all about fat loss and skin astrophy with lasers. I have damage after x2 IPL and VBEAM lasers
    Where my fat in my face just disappeared and I was left with sunken in areas and not to mention horrible texture problems and scarring. It was and still is 1000times worse than rosacea. And not much can be done to fix this type of damage. It's horrible and it's happening more and more and I'm sure I'm the future these lasers will be shut down. The risk is just not worth it. Iv spent more than 10k on fillers to replace the loss of tissue and over 14k on recell treatment with dr Rawlins / travel / accomodation. All to try and fix what a f**king 10 minute job with a IPL / vbeam laser did for some redness! Worst mistake of my life. I would trade anything to go back.
    I now have to wait another 6m and see if can get recell again as the damage that laser does goes very deep and who knows how long it will take to fix!
    And to have rosacea on top of that is to say the least very very lame! Life sure knows how to play funny games with you. But sorry for the rant! LED is good! Laser is bad!
    Don't do laser! Ever!
    I am so sorry to hear that Raymond. I wish these side effects were made more known to individuals. I am hoping the Nlite laser is better but then there is a worry with anything serious like IPL / laser hitting your skin

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    Yeh IPL was the big thing before vbeam so I guess it's my fault for jumping into it too quick. But yeh there should be more warnings! But hey maybe these newer lasers Like nlite have figure out the kinks and are much safer and have no damage. Don't let me experience put you or anyone else off lasers. Just be careful and do your research 😀

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    I don't think LEDS can really hurt you, as long as you use them properly. For me orange light therapy has been nothing short of a godsend. I've certainly heard of people experiencing fat loss from IPL/laser, but NEVER from low level light therapy. I definitely recommend you give LEDs a try, if redness/flushing (subtype 1) is your main problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaymondS View Post
    Yes I know all about fat loss and skin astrophy with lasers. I have damage after x2 IPL and VBEAM lasers
    Where my fat in my face just disappeared and I was left with sunken in areas and not to mention horrible texture problems and scarring. It was and still is 1000times worse than rosacea. And not much can be done to fix this type of damage. It's horrible and it's happening more and more and I'm sure I'm the future these lasers will be shut down. The risk is just not worth it. Iv spent more than 10k on fillers to replace the loss of tissue and over 14k on recell treatment with dr Rawlins / travel / accomodation. All to try and fix what a f**king 10 minute job with a IPL / vbeam laser did for some redness! Worst mistake of my life. I would trade anything to go back.
    I now have to wait another 6m and see if can get recell again as the damage that laser does goes very deep and who knows how long it will take to fix!
    And to have rosacea on top of that is to say the least very very lame! Life sure knows how to play funny games with you. But sorry for the rant! LED is good! Laser is bad!
    Don't do laser! Ever!
    Hi, Sorry to hear about your experience with laser. Could I ask what type of v beam you got (bruising or non-bruising) and if you got it done by a doctor/dermatologist or not? If in the UK, where so I can avoid it haha? This info would be very helpful to me as I want to embark on the bruising type of V beam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fifihope View Post
    Hi, Sorry to hear about your experience with laser. Could I ask what type of v beam you got (bruising or non-bruising) and if you got it done by a doctor/dermatologist or not? If in the UK, where so I can avoid it haha? This info would be very helpful to me as I want to embark on the bruising type of V beam.

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    Hey, it was non bruising and was by a doctor in Sydney Australia but wasn't a derm. But that doesn't really matter as there's been thousands of laser cases from even the most experienced and well known dermatologist. But go with a laser Specialist ....not just because they say they are but do you research and ask them a **** tone of question before and don't take any blood thinning supps.

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    Hi all,

    I have been experimenting a little with a red light device purchased two weeks ago, in the hopes of eliminating demodex and restoring skin barrier.

    Here is the message I got from the website's owner:

    "I don’t know much about light therapy for demodex mites. A couple of people have asked about it before. My first assumption was that red light would not necessarily kill insects/parasites like that, since red light seems to help most organisms to thrive (snails, fish, birds, mammals, etc.). However, when I looked into it more, it seems that Demodex mites can be ‘coagulated’ via absorption of light (500 nm to 1,064 nm) by their pigmented exoskeleton. A similar mechanism to how light helps with the acne bacteria. So basically yes, the lights we sell are able to freeze or solidify the mite’s body and kill it. I don’t know how effective it will be in the long term or if it will kill the eggs etc., but I would try it myself if in a situation like yours. Using it fairly close to, or even pressed onto, the skin for 10 minutes+.
    There is no ultraviolet, no negative effects on face shape, only positive effects on scars, and it will help to prevent cancer.
    You are planning on doing photodynamic therapy for killing mites, which needs an entirely different treatment type due to the dose dependent effects. Higher intensity light with a higher dose will give more chance to kill the mites (or bacteria, yeast, parasites, etc.). It works on a different mechanism to light therapy, which works via the mitochondria. Photodynamic therapy for killing works on pigments in the parasites."

    According to my calculation, the suggested dose is : 1000 mW/cm² density x 600 seconds x 0,001 = 600J/cm², which sounds extremely high. Could this result in facial volume loss? Thank you.

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