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    Quote Originally Posted by antwantsclear View Post
    I agree it's very interesting to be kept up to date with Dr S's treatments. Is anyone aware if any person had a bad experience who went to Dr S's clinic? I think we can definitely verify that some people have had good experiences, but as with any treatment, some people will likely have less positive effects. I appreciate in the short term the treatment is uncomfortable and difficult, but I just wonder if anyone, for example, found that it made the condition of their rosacea or skin worse in the long run.
    I wonder about the patients who may have suffered side effects too. Whilst it is said by the patients who have popped in here, that the skin recovers quickly from the aggressive rubbing, peeling, perhaps that is not always the case. There is one member here, who had managed to find a forum of Russian (??) speaking people, some of whom complained of the side effect of shiny, taut, plastic type skin. Sorry I can't recall who that member was. This is obviously a concern and it would be helpful to know more about those people.
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    We can hope that Judith E who started this thread will post her experience and results.
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    Shiny taunt skin sounds like traumatised skin. I know because I have had dermabrasion and although different it removes top layers of the skin. And takes forever for your skin to heal and build its thickness back up. I'm still recovering but getting better. But I can not compare that and Syrokomskyy.

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    Dr. Syrokomskyy is a very interesting person:

    http://syrokomskyy.com/about-doctor.html

    http://syrokomskyy.com/treatment/rosacea.html

    http://syrokomskyy.com/

    You can add an extension to Windows 10, Translator for Microsoft Edge, to read these pages in poorly translated English, but still, enough to see what he's writing about.

    He has 76 people in the photo section -- you can see how the skin is very burned and exfoliating at about month-4. The Doctor's daughter Christina is now a Doctor at his clinic. Apparently he has a strict regimen -- he doesn't explain it at all, but his openness in displaying the harshness of the treatment via photos is encouraging.

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    My best guess is that the Doctor uses glycolic acid peels every 3 weeks for 4 months, and the systemic herbals are just fluff. The timing of 3 weeks would nuke both types of demodex and prevent the males from crawling around to find a female, when used for 4 months, and the glycolic acid peel would result in the exfoliation and massive skin-burning shown in the photos.

    He would likely start with a "lower" percent of glycolic acid to make sure he wasn't doing any damage, and to discern the skin-type he's dealing with, and then ramp up the percentage to result in the shell-like, burned skin shown at 4 months in his photos. It's logically obvious that 4 months is significant to the treatment, based on the captions below the photos.

    Here's an article that discusses glycolic acid peels: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3875240/ Treatment every 3 weeks is apparently considered medically correct, as discussed in the article.

    You could easily buy everything you need on the web and try this at home for very little money. Has anyone tried glycolic acid peels? I haven't as it seems very radical. I'm not in favor of this treatment, because you have to very careful to keep glycolic acid away from your eyes, nostrils, and lips. As a result, it isn't useable at all for ocular demodex conditions, like dry eye syndrome.

    Or, you could get a 4-month visa to Ukraine and see the Doctor. In my opinion it's very likely he's using simple ingredients like glycolic acid, because he would otherwise disclose the whole concept. Very interesting though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistica View Post
    I wonder about the patients who may have suffered side effects too. Whilst it is said by the patients who have popped in here, that the skin recovers quickly from the aggressive rubbing, peeling, perhaps that is not always the case. There is one member here, who had managed to find a forum of Russian (??) speaking people, some of whom complained of the side effect of shiny, taut, plastic type skin. Sorry I can't recall who that member was. This is obviously a concern and it would be helpful to know more about those people.
    That was probably me lol, I haven't found a lot of information about his patients but the description you give is right. (about badly went treatments ) . I wondered about some skin or skin's nerve infection too, like mycoplasma or chlamydia pneumoniae. Today my main hypothesis is that we don't process efficiently acetaldehyde and our gut bacteria produce an increased amount of this.

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    From memory, he doesn't use glycolic acid, but it has to be something in that line. The solution has to be applied about 5 times per day and at each application the skin has to be rubbed for 15 minutes or something to that effect. "The more inflammation created, the better" apparently.
    It has a sweet odour, reminiscent of honey. It goes brown when exposed to sunlight.
    There are a couple of solutions. One contains alcohol. A high percentage of sulphur is also used. Benzyl benzoate is included, from memory.

    The herbs have a purpose. He uses them to reset the immune system and balance neurotransmitters. Diet and fasting play a large role.

    Herbs are the basis of his treatments in general, but only in rosaceans and acne patients does he use topicals. Infection aside, I strongly suspect the topicals address the abnormal vasculature. So if you have a face full of telangiectasia and course skin, the topicals will help reverse this, but the actual trigger for the facial symptoms are addressed with herbs, diet and fasting.

    That is my impression anyway. Always interested to hear other opinions, however.
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    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
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    Quote Originally Posted by babadah View Post
    That was probably me lol, I haven't found a lot of information about his patients but the description you give is right. (about badly went treatments ) . I wondered about some skin or skin's nerve infection too, like mycoplasma or chlamydia pneumoniae. Today my main hypothesis is that we don't process efficiently acetaldehyde and our gut bacteria produce an increased amount of this.
    Yes, I remember you now I recognise the France Flag.
    I too, ponder, mycoplasma and Cpn. There's been a lot of discussion about these over the years and it would appear that most people have been infected with Cpn at least, but it only becomes an issue if the immune system allows it to do so. Perhaps the diet, herbs and fasting address this?
    Fasting in particular is thought to induce autophagy which has various benefits, including dealing with intracellular infections (ie, Cpn etc).

    I'd be curious to know what dietary modifications DG is implementing to maintain his remission.
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    Hi badabah you mentioned the failure to process acetaldehyde -- you might look at "Asian flushing syndrome," and a post (about 2 years ago) where I attached the flow chart from an article titled, "Hypothesis of demodicidosis rosacea flushing etiopathogenesis," published by Mary Ann Robledo -- both of these relate to acetaldehyde in the stomach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Busby View Post
    Hi badabah you mentioned the failure to process acetaldehyde -- you might look at "Asian flushing syndrome," and a post (about 2 years ago) where I attached the flow chart from an article titled, "Hypothesis of demodicidosis rosacea flushing etiopathogenesis," published by Mary Ann Robledo -- both of these relate to acetaldehyde in the stomach.
    Hi Tom, yes I'm well aware of those, we have talked about it on this forum some time ago with a member who was in a medical school and got rosacea like symptoms from a sympathetic nervous system surgery (if i'm correct) . He's disappeared since though.
    What makes me wonder is those asians who flush severely to alcohol but don't develop rosacea, does that mean that their normal acetaldehyde production is very low or is there something else in equation ?

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