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    i have tried both both Ipl and V beam. None of them works for me. My first question is simply why? I have tiny tiny vissible veins on my nose and on specific parts on my cheeks that sometimes flushes up a bit extra. I almost Think that the laser threatments have make it worse. Bigger spider veins started to show up after my first 3 threatments. Is there any other recommended laser Worth trying or should I give up Before i make my skin condition even worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWARALBIHN View Post
    i have tried both both Ipl and V beam. None of them works for me. My first question is simply why? I have tiny tiny vissible veins on my nose and on specific parts on my cheeks that sometimes flushes up a bit extra. I almost Think that the laser threatments have make it worse. Bigger spider veins started to show up after my first 3 threatments. Is there any other recommended laser Worth trying or should I give up Before i make my skin condition even worse?
    It didn't work because the person treating you didn't have a clue what they were doing.... If you didn't see results from the treatments I can almost guarantee the person doing the treatments did not match the pulse duration to the thermal relaxation time of its target.

    Small blood vessels Need a short pulse duration.

    Bigger veins need a longer pulse duration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carllambert1993 View Post
    It didn't work because the person treating you didn't have a clue what they were doing.... If you didn't see results from the treatments I can almost guarantee the person doing the treatments did not match the pulse duration to the thermal relaxation time of its target.

    Small blood vessels Need a short pulse duration.

    Bigger veins need a longer pulse duration.
    It just seems so strange. The company that performed the treatments calls themselves professionals. Three different person did the treatments on me. How is it that no one has a clue what theyīre doing?

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    ^^ the place I first went to called themselves 'laser specialists'.... I got to meet the Doctor once then was passed onto some laser nurse who burned and blistered my skin ..... I was young and stupid at the time and got a total of 9 treatments which were useless.

    Then found out that shorter pulse durations are needed for treating small blood vessels and diffuse redness.

    I get my vbeam treatments done with a 0.45ms pulse duration theses days, with a new Doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carllambert1993 View Post
    ^^ the place I first went to called themselves 'laser specialists'.... I got to meet the Doctor once then was passed onto some laser nurse who burned and blistered my skin ..... I was young and stupid at the time and got a total of 9 treatments which were useless.

    Then found out that shorter pulse durations are needed for treating small blood vessels and diffuse redness.

    I get my vbeam treatments done with a 0.45ms pulse duration theses days, with a new Doctor.
    So you mean that 595nm (nanometer?) is to much. On their website the V beam laser is described as special developed for veins with 595nm laser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWARALBIHN View Post
    So you mean that 595nm (nanometer?) is to much. On their website the V beam laser is described as special developed for veins with 595nm laser.
    No the 595nm is the vbeams wavelength... 595 is OK.

    It's the pulse duration and joules you should be looking at.

    I uploaded a post a while back "vbeam experience and advice"... Try search for it and see if it helps you understand.

    You just have to look at page 1... I'm summed it all up in that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carllambert1993 View Post
    ^^ the place I first went to called themselves 'laser specialists'.... I got to meet the Doctor once then was passed onto some laser nurse who burned and blistered my skin ..... I was young and stupid at the time and got a total of 9 treatments which were useless.

    Then found out that shorter pulse durations are needed for treating small blood vessels and diffuse redness.

    I get my vbeam treatments done with a 0.45ms pulse duration theses days, with a new Doctor.
    Is 0.45ms duration a bruising setting? Is there a difference between telling a doctor to specifically turn down the duration to 0.45, or just ask to get a bruising treatment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT150 View Post
    Is 0.45ms duration a bruising setting? Is there a difference between telling a doctor to specifically turn down the duration to 0.45, or just ask to get a bruising treatment?
    Yes you have to ask for a 0.45ms 1.5ms pulse duration with bruising.

    You can inflict a bruise with a long pulse duration and not see results if the pulse duration doesn't match the thermal relaxation time of its target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carllambert1993 View Post
    Yes you have to ask for a 0.45ms 1.5ms pulse duration with bruising.

    You can inflict a bruise with a long pulse duration and not see results if the pulse duration doesn't match the thermal relaxation time of its target.
    Hmm I am a bit confused right now... what do you mean with both 0.45ms and 1.5ms? Could you explain more in detail how the different pulse duration setting change the effect of the treatment? What is it that makes the small blood vessels disappear with a shorter setting than a longer one? Is it about the temperature in small blood vessels who donīt get hot enough with long pulse duration? Is the main gold to get a bruising to get good results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWARALBIHN View Post
    Hmm I am a bit confused right now... what do you mean with both 0.45ms and 1.5ms? Could you explain more in detail how the different pulse duration setting change the effect of the treatment? What is it that makes the small blood vessels disappear with a shorter setting than a longer one? Is it about the temperature in small blood vessels who donīt get hot enough with long pulse duration? Is the main gold to get a bruising to get good results?
    Example, you said you had many treatments and didn't see results. I can guarantee that the pulse duration was incorrect for your blood vessels.

    If you had of been treated with a short pulse duration you would have seen improvement.

    Yes if the pulse duration is too long it won't heat up the smaller blood vessels, they will be left behind and you will still be red with small blood vessels.

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