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    Default Journey to treat papulopustular rosacea/mites

    Likely problems: demodex mites
    Possible problems: yeast/candida, immune system issues

    Plan: Do borax internally and externally for 3-4 weeks because that's the life cycle of the mites.. gotta bite the bullet and be patient.

    1st week:
    I realized that my tongue is a lot pinker and doesn't have barely any white stuff after I started taking borax. My breath doesn't stink in the morning either.
    I started taking a pinch of borax to mix with soap when I wash my hands. I realized that my eczema doesn't itch anymore and dead skin is flaking off where the pustules were. I hope this continues to get better. Acne still seems the same though, doesn't seem to get better.

    My skin is a lot lighter and glowy - it's probably borax's way of cutting through grease. I can take my makeup off with hand and soap and a dab of borax. This is some strong ****. I'll give this another week and no more because it seems to be strong stuff. I don't feel my skin being sensitive or harmed or anything.

    Got really drowsy and had vivid dreams (I didn't know this was really a thing nor thought it would happen to me) for the first week. Herxheimer reaction?

    2nd week:

    I had mild flu like symptoms for a while after starting, for a few days. then it disappeared

    From the forum, so I am keeping in mind: "One forum contributor suffered with Fibromyalgia/Rosacea, chronic fatigue and TMJ for over 10 years which she believed were caused by fluoride. She used 1/8 tsp of borax and 1/8 tsp of sea salt in a litre of de-chlorinated water, and drank this for 5 days each week. Within two weeks her face cleared, the redness faded, body temperature normalized, energy level increased, and she steadily lost excess weight. The only side-effect was an initial aggravation of her Rosacea symptoms."

    13th day: Acne is still there, but I realize that the dark pores on my nose seem cleaner and smaller. did borax dissolve those? I also realize that the flaky skin on my forehead (apparent when I put on foundation) isn't visible anymore. Did borax rinse those off? Also on this day I added Vitamin C serum to my routine.

    3rd week:

    White tongue coming back. Is borax becoming ineffective? Tried permethrin 5%, skin was suddenly nice and calm looking again for a day... and then the next day got cystic. 3rd day after the cream is the worst breakout so far. I got a headache. I hope it's die off.

    I am still waiting to complete the 3rd week.

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    Forgot to add, the routine:
    A pinch of borax per cup of water, I mix a new batch every time I drink. I don't have a litre jug to put 1/8 tsp of borax in. I wash my face every night with a tip-of-fingerful of borax, which I just dab and rub into my Cerave Foaming Face Wash. It's amazing how easily my foundation washes off without a need for makeup remover or facial cloth/brush. My skin has been very pale and bright since using borax, but doesn't seem to be helping with breakouts just yet. Borax softens my skin, softens the water, and I don't seem to have any drying effects from it? I am worried about the high pH but if anything, it helps my skin feel soft and moisturized from what I can tell.

    I also used borax in my shampoo the same time I began using borax on my face. I don't know if it's doing anything for my hair, but borax definitely seems to eliminate body/back acne just by the shampoo water running down me.
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    The permethrin cream makes my skin feel "cold" after a while. Not a bad or painful feeling, just unusual. I applied permethrin again today (last time was 3 days ago) and I am getting that cool feeling again, especially at my front cheeks and not the jawlines where my breakouts usually are. I am continuing drinking borax and washing my face with borax. If my face gets itchy, I dab some borax water on it and it feels calm again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramen View Post
    The permethrin cream makes my skin feel "cold" after a while. Not a bad or painful feeling, just unusual. I applied permethrin again today (last time was 3 days ago) and I am getting that cool feeling again, especially at my front cheeks and not the jawlines where my breakouts usually are. I am continuing drinking borax and washing my face with borax. If my face gets itchy, I dab some borax water on it and it feels calm again.
    Note that you shouldn't apply permethrin on daily basis, it's toxic. I also wouldn't apply it on weekly basis. Soolantra should be safer and more effective in killing demodex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tso View Post
    Note that you shouldn't apply permethrin on daily basis, it's toxic. I also wouldn't apply it on weekly basis. Soolantra should be safer and more effective in killing demodex.
    eh, everything's toxic in high doses. Some people apply permethrin every day, but I don't think I need to do that. I'll try what I have ATM.

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    Starting green smoothies today. I'll see how adding more veggies into my diet will work.

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    Just started a new sunscreen, and my breakouts definitely seemed to have smoothed out. I don't know if it's the permethrin working, the borax finally working, or the sunscreen. I used the same brand before and I swore it helped prevent breakouts but I stopped using it because it made me look flaky. The flakiness of my skin is back, I don't know if the borax stopped exfoliating my face or whether it's just the sunscreen again. Anyway, it can't hurt.
    What I added to my regimen since 3 weeks ago:
    1. Borax internally and externally
    2. Permethrin once a week (going to try it tonight and then stop using it. I think a few application is good enough), I started this last week.
    3. Green smoothies (no fruit, because it's cheaper that way), started this week
    4. Sunscreen that works for me except it's flaky, started this week

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    Okay, something is definitely working. My skin is calm and my breakouts have become less and less. I had no breakouts or itchiness today. It might be borax finally kicking in, but I have a feeling it's either the green smoothies or the sunscreen. Or the permethrin (which I was supposed to apply today) that finally kicked in. Man I am not that scientific. I am just glad that something is working. I am using permethrin only as a jump start, but I am going to keep the other three for long term.

    My planned regimen:
    1. Borax externally and internally once in a while because it's supposed to keep my bones strong and keep candida under control
    2. green smoothies regularly to keep my veggie intake high. I add raw egg yolk to this.
    3. sunscreen daily. I am going to buy a clarisonic to see if it helps with the flakes.

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    Here are the things I added to my smoothies (not all at once):
    1. cucumbers
    2. carrots
    3. tomatoes
    4. spinach
    5. kale
    6. cilantro
    7. lettuce types
    8. onion
    9. bell peppers


    Liquids and fats:
    1. californian olive oil (make sure it's real olive oil)
    2. butter
    3. raw egg yolk
    4. yogurt
    5. milk
    6. water



    I hope to add herbs like parsley, avocado, and other variety in the future. I only used what I had or what I can buy at the dollar store (YES the dollar store). I haven't added any fruit nor do I have interest to. I am not much of a sweet tooth and tolerant to tastes, so even though it's fine for me you might find it too grassy. But hey for clear skin right?

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    No breakouts or sensitive skin today. Occasional itchies but they're mild and I don't know if they're just caused by loose hair or something. Not bad like usual though. Something is definitely working, I just hope it stays this way and that I am not overdoing it.

    Borax: I would take a break from borax but I don't know when. Water tastes a lot better with it and facial wash works a lot better with it too, it's like I am dependent on it now. People talk about how we should take break from certain drugs so we don't build tolerance or something, but I don't consider borax a drug that we build tolerance to. It's a mineral. So... yeah...

    Sunscreen: The sunscreen I use is Elta MD Physical SPF 41. I don't think it's zinc oxide that helps my acne, because other sunscreens don't have the same affect. Only Elta MD seems to help with my acne. It's very anecdotal, I don't know what's so special about it, all I know is that it may have helped me.

    5% Permethrin: I applied permethrin last night, and there wasn't a huge breakout after it like before. No breakout at all. So I guess the demodex mites are finally not as strong enough to fight back (or something).

    Smoothies: I am continuing with the green smoothies. I admit I don't get a lot of veggies, let alone variety and raw veggies, in my diet so green smoothies are a quick and easy way to get them in. I think internally, this is what made the biggest difference. I am feeling better but it may be because I am feeling better about my skin.

    I am also doing vitamin C serum, which I haven't mentioned before, but I don't think it helps with rosacea. Who knows, maybe it does but I thought I'd mention it. I also ordered Clarisonic so I get to exfoliate the dead skin cells and really clear out my pores of their junk and dead mites.

    Even if I get clear skin, I'll keep posting here. Maybe other people can take a look at what helped me and see if it helps long term.

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