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    Hi board,

    I have v-beam on February 2. It's been almost 5 weeks.

    I fear deep in my heart that I am burned. The day after the treatment, my brother saw me, and thought I had a chemical peel. I had 122 v-beam pulses. 7 joules/cm2, 1.5ms, 10mm spot size. It was the most intense treatment I had ever had. I should have known something was wrong, because my cheeks felt like they were on fire.

    Almost my entire cheeks were black. My cheeks swelled up for about 4 days, so much so that my eyes were a little bit narrowed. The swelling as gone after 4 days. Fortunately, there were no blisters. No obvious signs of a burn.

    I have seen no change since the first week. I am a slow healer. Usually, I start healing at 6 weeks, and finished healing at 8 weeks. But that was from previous treatments in which a smaller spot size was used (7mm instead of 10mm), and less pulses were used.

    I don't think I can put the terror I feel into words sufficient enough to hold my feelings. I know people will think I am over reacting, but I feel my life is over. I don't know what is allowed to be expressed on this board. I am not saying I'm going to go jump off a bridge, but I feel like I just don't want to be here. I feel as if I have been burned and disfigured for life. Today I did my first google search for burn doctors in the area.

    I have done v-beam many times in the past, and have never seen anything like this. I am still so red after almost 5 weeks. It is nothing like other people's photos here. The only person who is similar to mine is Littlelassie, but unfortunately she hasn't been on the forum in months. I think shoaib also had some pretty intense bruising, but I think he said he healed very well in a month.

    I spend most of my days crying. I know that I need to give this 8 weeks to heal, as that is my normal healing time. But I also have a deep, deep gut feeling that I will only be passing time towards an outcome that is inevitable. At 8 weeks I plan to see a burn specialist.

    I'm trying everything.
    1. Psoria-Gold.
    2. A topical serum from the dermatologist that has green tea polyphenols, resveratrol, and caffeine.
    3. Arnica gel.

    Nothing is helping....each morning when I brush my teeth...I get about half way through, I sit down on the edge of the tub, and sob. I cry out to god, why this happened to me.

    I know my post will probably go unanswered, as it is very scary. I just....I don't know. If there is anyone else out there who is going through this, please reply or send me a pm. I'm so alone with my thoughts, and I'm so scared. My thoughts go to such dark places, like even how will I go on living like this. I need support so badly.

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by paperbag View Post
    Hi board,

    I have v-beam on February 2. It's been almost 5 weeks.

    I fear deep in my heart that I am burned. The day after the treatment, my brother saw me, and thought I had a chemical peel. I had 122 v-beam pulses. 7 joules/cm2, 1.5ms, 10mm spot size. It was the most intense treatment I had ever had. I should have known something was wrong, because my cheeks felt like they were on fire.

    Almost my entire cheeks were black. My cheeks swelled up for about 4 days, so much so that my eyes were a little bit narrowed. The swelling as gone after 4 days. Fortunately, there were no blisters. No obvious signs of a burn.

    I have seen no change since the first week. I am a slow healer. Usually, I start healing at 6 weeks, and finished healing at 8 weeks. But that was from previous treatments in which a smaller spot size was used (7mm instead of 10mm), and less pulses were used.

    I don't think I can put the terror I feel into words sufficient enough to hold my feelings. I know people will think I am over reacting, but I feel my life is over. I don't know what is allowed to be expressed on this board. I am not saying I'm going to go jump off a bridge, but I feel like I just don't want to be here. I feel as if I have been burned and disfigured for life. Today I did my first google search for burn doctors in the area.

    I have done v-beam many times in the past, and have never seen anything like this. I am still so red after almost 5 weeks. It is nothing like other people's photos here. The only person who is similar to mine is Littlelassie, but unfortunately she hasn't been on the forum in months. I think shoaib also had some pretty intense bruising, but I think he said he healed very well in a month.

    I spend most of my days crying. I know that I need to give this 8 weeks to heal, as that is my normal healing time. But I also have a deep, deep gut feeling that I will only be passing time towards an outcome that is inevitable. At 8 weeks I plan to see a burn specialist.

    I'm trying everything.
    1. Psoria-Gold.
    2. A topical serum from the dermatologist that has green tea polyphenols, resveratrol, and caffeine.
    3. Arnica gel.

    Nothing is helping....each morning when I brush my teeth...I get about half way through, I sit down on the edge of the tub, and sob. I cry out to god, why this happened to me.

    I know my post will probably go unanswered, as it is very scary. I just....I don't know. If there is anyone else out there who is going through this, please reply or send me a pm. I'm so alone with my thoughts, and I'm so scared. My thoughts go to such dark places, like even how will I go on living like this. I need support so badly.

    Thank you
    Im sorry to say this but the year is 2015 and anyone who puts lasers anywhere near their skin is only asking for trouble

    The amount of horror stories that have been on forums like this in the last 20 years is there for everyone to see .

    Its just pure madness going near lasers

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    I ask for support and I get this troll. Stay off my thread Dave Kelly. You've done enough. I will report you if you don't leave me be.

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    Hang in there paperbag. Someone with experience
    Will answer you. Hugs hugs hugs.

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    I'd like to suggest you supplement with the following to improve your ability to handle oxidative stress.

    *Selenium
    *zinc/copper (with a ratio of 10 to 15:1) Jarrows makes one.
    * magnesium
    (Personally I find Trace Mineral ConcenTRACE drops more helpful, as you can take smaller doses in one hit and avoid potential for flushing).

    You could also try eating 15 gm of liver a couple of times per week for the vitamin A and copper.

    Recently, I have been supplementing with oral niacinamide, with the idea of improving mitochondrial respiration/reducing oxidative stress.
    It was advised by Prof Ayers and Prof Jaminet who have been trying to help me for years.
    Prof Peat, (with whom I do not have personal contact), also has some ideas about this method and you can read about these here:

    http://raypeat.com/articles/articles...on-aging.shtml

    Oral niacinamide is new to my regime, and so far I have taken too much and too little and then arrived at what appears to be an appropriate dose... for me.
    I must say, so far, it looks promising.
    For me, around 125mg, taken 3 to 4 times per day is helping. Too much will cause vasodilation.
    Big hits cause headaches in nearly everyone and digestive disturbance.

    The only other person on this board that I know of, who supplements in large doses is Birdie, who also experiences benefits.

    In addition, in my case, I find topical niacinamide helpful, but again, it took experimentation to find the right dose and my initial attempts were a failure.

    In summary, you really need to reduce the oxidative stress in your face and I am just passing on what has been advised to me.

    Niacinamide is known to be anti-inflammatory, it can reduce hyperpigmentation and protect DNA, so it seems like it might be worth trying in your case, even if it might cause some transient superficial redness in the short term.

    A note about polyphenols, resveratrol, etc, .. all these things lower glucose and whilst in general avoiding a diet high in carbs in recommended for us, when the body has suffered a significant trauma, it needs a good supply of glucose to assist in repair.
    I don't know what your diet is like, but if you avoid starches (grains, potatoes etc), like many of us do, including me,
    you might try adding dextrose to food, or even orange juice if you can tolerate it.

    As you have already mentioned, getting assessed by another physician would be a good idea.
    I am sorry this has happened to you, but don't give up just yet.

    **I mix my topical niacinamide with Egozite cream (for babies). Both have been shown to improve the skin barrier.
    Last edited by Mistica; 8th March 2015 at 01:24 AM.
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    First, you are right about the troll thing. Second, give red light therapy a try-its not hot at all and it helps heal skin. I had a similar experience as you and I can see and feel my skin improve every time I use it.

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    How do I get red light therapy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paperbag View Post
    How do I get red light therapy?
    It depends on who you ask, but personally I think Iowa David's soothing rain light is a god send

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    So sorry you are having such a difficult time! I don't know what to say other than I really believe the body can heal itself and I think it helps immensely if you have hope and believe this. I laid in bed for 4 months a couple of years unable to support my own body, numb and twitchy all over, so believe me, I know where your mind can go when you are in such a state. It took time but today I have my life back and it is just a memory. Hang in there. It will get better. Hugs to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosacea27 View Post
    It depends on who you ask, but personally I think Iowa David's soothing rain light is a god send
    How do I purchase this? Is there a website? What is the cost?

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