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    Another thing that reduced my inflammation (in addition to sulfur) has been high doses of L-Lysine and Vitamin C. If you add that to the licorice Kalamazoo you could be on the way to fighting this the natural way.

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    hello, doxy can definitely cause stomach discomfort....what i do when i take my oracea is take it with my breakfast and not the empty stomach and that helps me enormously. You will probably have to let your ulcer heal before trying this method if you decide to give it a go. also the oracea is in capsule form with what i am assuming is ground up doxy. the hard pills may be even more irritating to the stomach. i do think there is a rebound effect to doxy...whatever the mechanism in the body is which regulates and "minimizes" inflammation probably becomes "lazy" because it doesn't have to "work" as hard...my assumption anyways...i wonder if there is a way for your pharmacy to import oracea for you if you were to try it...i hope you are feeling better


    Quote Originally Posted by Kalamazoo View Post
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    My first post. Sorry that it's a bit long but I just feel that I need to put everything into context. I've had rosacea for more than 15 years. The first ten years it was untreated and it progressively got worse. I was in denial.

    Then in 2008 I work up one morning with a massive flare-up. My skin was red and burning and it stayed red and burning for days. That flare-up left permanent damage and redness.

    Soon after that I had my first laser treatment and was given a tube of Skinoren (Finacea) to use. The Skinoren cleared my rosacea up very nicely (most of the time it was unnoticeable that I even had rosacea) however I developed almost immediate SEVERE ocular rosacea which I had never had before. It literally felt as though everything living on my face (demodex?) had got up and walked into my eyelids. The next two or three years were a very, very dark time in my life. To be honest, I didn't know if I could continue living with such extreme eyelid discomfort. Eye specialists could give me no answers or solutions.

    A couple of years ago I decided to finally try antibiotics (which I had been avoiding)and I asked my doc for a 50mg dose of doxycycline (Oracea is not available where I live). It worked really well for me and I could actually go out without any make-up on. After about six months though I developed a terrible burning sensation in my oesophagus and stomach and it got so bad that I could barely eat. I came off the doxycycline. Within ten days my skin was worse than ever. Instead of the rosy cheeks and nose I had had previously I now had blotchy red patches, broken skin and pimples (which I had never had before). Anyway I managed to stay off the doxy for seven months and then felt that I wanted to give it another go. It cleared my skin up nicely for a while but then my skin started to look bad again despite taking the doxy. Ten days ago I developed sever burning in my stomach and throat and had to stop the doxy again. My doc thinks I have a duodenal ulcer so I am off the doxy and on omeprazole for the ulcer. After being off the doxy for ten days my skin is already starting to look inflamed, red and broken.

    Anyway, to summarise, the doxy did help give me some ocular relief and clear my skin for a while but ultimately I feel it has done more harm than good. My skin is worse than it was before, my stomach is destroyed and the Skinoren gel no longer works to clear up my skin. I really don't know what to do now regarding treating my rosacea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalamazoo View Post
    Hi everyone

    My first post. Sorry that it's a bit long but I just feel that I need to put everything into context. I've had rosacea for more than 15 years. The first ten years it was untreated and it progressively got worse. I was in denial.

    Then in 2008 I work up one morning with a massive flare-up. My skin was red and burning and it stayed red and burning for days. That flare-up left permanent damage and redness.

    Soon after that I had my first laser treatment and was given a tube of Skinoren (Finacea) to use. The Skinoren cleared my rosacea up very nicely (most of the time it was unnoticeable that I even had rosacea) however I developed almost immediate SEVERE ocular rosacea which I had never had before. It literally felt as though everything living on my face (demodex?) had got up and walked into my eyelids. The next two or three years were a very, very dark time in my life. To be honest, I didn't know if I could continue living with such extreme eyelid discomfort. Eye specialists could give me no answers or solutions.

    A couple of years ago I decided to finally try antibiotics (which I had been avoiding)and I asked my doc for a 50mg dose of doxycycline (Oracea is not available where I live). It worked really well for me and I could actually go out without any make-up on. After about six months though I developed a terrible burning sensation in my oesophagus and stomach and it got so bad that I could barely eat. I came off the doxycycline. Within ten days my skin was worse than ever. Instead of the rosy cheeks and nose I had had previously I now had blotchy red patches, broken skin and pimples (which I had never had before). Anyway I managed to stay off the doxy for seven months and then felt that I wanted to give it another go. It cleared my skin up nicely for a while but then my skin started to look bad again despite taking the doxy. Ten days ago I developed sever burning in my stomach and throat and had to stop the doxy again. My doc thinks I have a duodenal ulcer so I am off the doxy and on omeprazole for the ulcer. After being off the doxy for ten days my skin is already starting to look inflamed, red and broken.

    Anyway, to summarise, the doxy did help give me some ocular relief and clear my skin for a while but ultimately I feel it has done more harm than good. My skin is worse than it was before, my stomach is destroyed and the Skinoren gel no longer works to clear up my skin. I really don't know what to do now regarding treating my rosacea.
    Hi Kalamazoo, sorry to read about your suffering. I took a generic doxy in capsule form that didn't cause too many problems except disrupting normal gut function. (hated that) I took it after meals and made sure of not lying down soon after but I'm sure you followed that as well. Worked for skin but was worried about long term damage and I just couldn't get that thought of what will happen to my skin when I quit out of my mind. I stopped and went for some colon hydro therapy, done some liver flushing, followed a reasonable diet, few supplements and have had reasonably good results. Obviously have some breakouts, that comes with the mind stressing situation we dealing with. I know you can't do what I followed with your damage but once that has been healed hopefully a more natural approach will help. Take care, hope you get on top of all this soon.

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    Thanks for your support. I'm still suffering but I hope to go to a specialist tomorrow.

    As we all know so well, unfortunately every medication has its side effects and what works for one person doesn't work for another. I avoided antibiotics for years out of fear then decided to brave them to help clear my ocular rosacea. Mistake! We don't know until we try I guess but every choice has its consequences, whether good or bad.

    I'd be interested to know if anyone who struggled with doxy had more success with Oracea.

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    Hi Kalamazoo,
    I used to have eye infections until I started with a sulphur and salicylic acid shampoo years ago (not in the eyes). Now I use that and TTO. I'm going to use a TTO wash to get rid of the last lingering symptoms in my eyes. Whenever I use TTO in the eyes I get great results.

    I also believe fungus might be a bigger contributor to all of this than I gave it credit for. I'm a bit interested in Metronidazol, but hopefully natural remedies will go a long way.

    flaflah, great links! Can you recommend any licorice drops? If it's side effect free that's very interesting!
    I drank licorice tea, it was marketed as neem tea, with an Indian declaration of content. My throat felt so much better, stomach as well. But I probably used too much, is one cup of day enough?

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    flaflah, great links! Can you recommend any licorice drops? If it's side effect free that's very interesting!
    I drank licorice tea, it was marketed as neem tea, with an Indian declaration of content. My throat felt so much better, stomach as well. But I probably used too much, is one cup of day enough?
    My husband doesnt use drops, he buys the real thing (bulk licorice root) at the drugstore and infuses a teaspoon in a cup of hot water. I dont know if it's hard to find outside Switzerland, but here it is a well known and super cheap!
    Are there any herbalist shop or natural product shop near where you live? Cuz that would be the healthiest, simplest and cheapest solution!
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    "Finacea"
    "SkinActives Canvas Base Cream" (to mix with my bb cream)
    "Missha M Perfect Cover BB Cream SPF 42 PA" to cover up (and it works! no one knows I have rosacea unless I remove my BB cream)
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    Treatments that failed :
    Tetralysal , Flagyl, Brimonidine/Mirvaso (had severe reaction), Oracea, Diane35, Avene creams, Laroche Posay creams, Metronidazole pills AND cream

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    But your link said that licorice drops are side effect free ;) I seem to be sensitive for potassium loss, since I didn't know it was licorice in the tea I drank more than I should have otherwise. Perhaps one cup a day might work now.

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    Was it a mix of different herbs or plain licorice root? Cuz often they'll mix licorice with other strong herbs like mint or black tea.
    Plain bulk licorice root is as side-effect-free as pure licorice drops... even better, it's not concentrated so it is softer to digest than any other licorice product. Pure licorice root is used precisely to sooth stomach problems, so there's no way you should have a stomachache with an infusion (unless you drank something else than PURE licorice ROOT)
    My rosacea in pictures
    Currently using :
    "Finacea"
    "SkinActives Canvas Base Cream" (to mix with my bb cream)
    "Missha M Perfect Cover BB Cream SPF 42 PA" to cover up (and it works! no one knows I have rosacea unless I remove my BB cream)
    -----
    Treatments that failed :
    Tetralysal , Flagyl, Brimonidine/Mirvaso (had severe reaction), Oracea, Diane35, Avene creams, Laroche Posay creams, Metronidazole pills AND cream

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    Thanks!
    "Some licorice extracts do not contain glycyrrhizin. These extracts are known as deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL), and do not seem to have the undesired side effects of other forms of licorice".
    It was an ayurvedic mix and I really liked it. I didn't get stomache ache, stomache and throat was much better As I didn't know it mostly contained licorice I drank way more than I should have otherwise. I'm more worried of the effect it has on potassium levels. That said I think licorice is a wonderful product. If I would have started with one cup a day everything would probably be just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalamazoo View Post
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    My first post. Sorry that it's a bit long but I just feel that I need to put everything into context. I've had rosacea for more than 15 years. The first ten years it was untreated and it progressively got worse. I was in denial.

    Then in 2008 I work up one morning with a massive flare-up. My skin was red and burning and it stayed red and burning for days. That flare-up left permanent damage and redness.

    Soon after that I had my first laser treatment and was given a tube of Skinoren (Finacea) to use. The Skinoren cleared my rosacea up very nicely (most of the time it was unnoticeable that I even had rosacea) however I developed almost immediate SEVERE ocular rosacea which I had never had before. It literally felt as though everything living on my face (demodex?) had got up and walked into my eyelids. The next two or three years were a very, very dark time in my life. To be honest, I didn't know if I could continue living with such extreme eyelid discomfort. Eye specialists could give me no answers or solutions.

    A couple of years ago I decided to finally try antibiotics (which I had been avoiding)and I asked my doc for a 50mg dose of doxycycline (Oracea is not available where I live). It worked really well for me and I could actually go out without any make-up on. After about six months though I developed a terrible burning sensation in my oesophagus and stomach and it got so bad that I could barely eat. I came off the doxycycline. Within ten days my skin was worse than ever. Instead of the rosy cheeks and nose I had had previously I now had blotchy red patches, broken skin and pimples (which I had never had before). Anyway I managed to stay off the doxy for seven months and then felt that I wanted to give it another go. It cleared my skin up nicely for a while but then my skin started to look bad again despite taking the doxy. Ten days ago I developed sever burning in my stomach and throat and had to stop the doxy again. My doc thinks I have a duodenal ulcer so I am off the doxy and on omeprazole for the ulcer. After being off the doxy for ten days my skin is already starting to look inflamed, red and broken.

    Anyway, to summarise, the doxy did help give me some ocular relief and clear my skin for a while but ultimately I feel it has done more harm than good. My skin is worse than it was before, my stomach is destroyed and the Skinoren gel no longer works to clear up my skin. I really don't know what to do now regarding treating my rosacea.

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