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    I receive all the ingredients 3 days ago and i try the recipe the last 3 days and I dont react good at all to it.

    It put me in such a big relax mood and everything look slow around me. So relax that I have difficulty to think quick.

    Honestly I feel like I have take some kind of drug and dont feel good at all on it.

    Note that i have not put ingredient 16-25 and i have respect the quantity.

    This cocktail dont do good at all on me. I stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfon View Post
    I receive all the ingredients 3 days ago and i try the recipe the last 3 days and I dont react good at all to it.

    It put me in such a big relax mood and everything look slow around me. So relax that I have difficulty to think quick.

    Honestly I feel like I have take some kind of drug and dont feel good at all on it.

    Note that i have not put ingredient 16-25 and i have respect the quantity.

    This cocktail dont do good at all on me. I stop it.
    This is actually a good signal, at least for me malf. It relaxes me too. But at the same time I gained energy all day. I no longer had that starvation adrenaline from 8 am to 4:30 and then the crash and hunger for Carbs. For me, it satiated my body to where it relaxes from that cycle. I would suggest reducing the amount then per consumption malf. The key is to get your intestine/blood barrier to relax - and no longer seek to derive its protein from contaminated sources.

    Yeah, definitely hold off on 16 - 25. Dilute the recipe with more water for a bit. And remember that this is used to replace meals - if you take it along with meals, you will be over consuming proteins.

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    I have more questions, if I may.

    As you can see by my signature, I follow the GAPS diet when it comes to foods, but I have given up on the fermented foods as my reaction is extreme and on going.
    Again, anything which causes vasodilation antagonises my facial vessels. The cause is unlikely to be just histamine. Competing bacteria in the gut produce vasoactive substances.
    In my case, anything regarded as 'foreign' triggers an immune reaction and my ACE levels elevate. Fall out is not restricted to my face.

    I am supposed to be having a fecal transplant at some stage. The ideal flora remedy, but I have to wonder what reaction I will have to that.

    GAPS diet helps many people. The theory is to cut out most foods barring basic proteins and then slowly introduce other foods in a manner which does not upset the immune system too much.
    I suspect that the slow introduction of new foods allows new flora to develop and adapt.
    However, there is a downside to the GAPS diet. When large food groups are removed, communities of gut flora die and if the entire community becomes extinct, certain foods are no longer tolerated.
    It can happen that multiple food intolerances occur.

    As you have pointed out in another post, bottle probiotics are of limited use, as they are not native to the gut.
    Hence the beauty of fecal transplants. In my case I have a very long history of multiple, long term antibiotics, which has destroyed my gut based immune system.

    There are several good diets for treating gut and immune disorders. Paleo, (the most well known). Specific carbohydrate diet, the GAPS diet, which is based on the former and others which don't overly interest me.

    All of these diets incorporate real food as their medicine. Bone broths are a stable.

    My question to you is, why did you chose a vegetarian source of protein as your staple?
    You speak of toxins, but I am not entirely clear what you mean.
    I do understand the definition and in fact, I am being treated for neurotoxic substances that are thought to being released by some nasty residents that have set up shop in my gut, but I am not sure what you mean.
    You speak of contamination. Are you speaking about antibiotic residues in meat?
    Perhaps you could clarify?

    I can see you have modified your diet to remove all the triggers which set your facial symptoms in motion. I have done the same, but without the excellent results that you have gained.
    Thus, I'd like to know, how have you established that it isn't the supplemental amino acids that aren't behind your recovery?
    I am not saying diet doesn't matter, as it certainly does. I'd be a mess if I veered off path, but I am not convinced that your formula hasn't tweaked neurotransmitters in some way.

    I'd appreciate your comments.
    By the way, I grill most people about their regimes, simply as I like to gather information.
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    The key is to get your intestine/blood barrier to relax - and no longer seek to derive its protein from contaminated sources.
    What does this mean exactly?
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    Hi Scot,
    Thanks for your guidance.

    I have discovered that quinoa is actually really delicious, cooked some quinoa in my rice cooker the other day and ate together with beet root and tuna, surprisingly good mix. I have also started with the shake exactly as the recipe is but still wait for some supplements. ALso still have cravings shich have made me cheat on the "forbidden stuff".

    Anyway, got two questions

    Question One: Do you drink any alcohol, I have understood that most beers are out of question.

    Question two, do you know how many calories the items below account for?
    From your post earlier, I could try to do the math myself, but I have a feeling you already know as it is such a huge part of your diet. The reason asking is that I want to start track the food I am eating and the calorie intake.

    [QUOTE=Scot Viking;297333]Celebrating A Whole Year of Being Rosacea Free


    A pea, hemp, rice and chia seed protein powder. I use 1 Scoop, and then to this: 3 capsules of key proteins: L-Argenine, L-Ornithene, Glutamic Acid, Aspartic Acid, Leucine, Isoleucine, Valine, Lysine, Proline, and Glycine.
    My morning carb, fat, sugar and natural protein array: 1 tsp each of Coconut flour, hemp hearts, quinoa flour, amaranth flour, ground chia and ground flax, 1/2 an apple, 3 pitted prunes and 1 tsp of instant coffee and 14 ounces of spring water (no chlorine or fluorine tap water) .
    4. Morning non-protein supplements (all are critical): 1/2 tsp turmeric (to reduce colon inflammation and general anxiety), 5000 IU Vitamin D, a multivitamin, MSM (2 capsules), Thyroid Support with Iodine (1 capsule) , Selenium, 1/2 tsp Maca powder, an acid/HCL/bile digestion ease tablet (x3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Viking View Post
    2. Coconut Flour, 1 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/nutiva-organ...nut-flour-1-lb)
    3. Hemp Hearts, 1 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/manitoba-har...hearts-12-pack)
    4. Quinoa Flour, 1 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/bobs-red-mil...c-quinoa-flour)
    5. Amaranth Flour, 1 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/bobs-red-mil...amaranth-flour)
    6. Ground Chia, 1 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/nutiva-organ...-seeds-12-oz-1)
    7. Ground Flaxseed, 1 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/spectrum-org...round-flaxseed)


    12. Turmeric Ground Root, 1/2 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/frontier-nat...ic-root-ground)
    13. Maca Root Powder, 1/2 tsp (http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-who...er-16-oz-454-g)
    14. MSM, 2000 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-msm)
    15. Selenium, 300 mcg (http://www.vitacost.com/trace-minera...nium-liquimins)

    16. L-Argenine, 1250 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-l-a...cl-l-ornithine)
    17. L-Ornithine, 750 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-l-a...cl-l-ornithine)
    18. Glutamic Acid, 1/2 scoop, 2.5 g (http://www.vitacost.com/aro-vitacost...s-1-1-lb-500-g)
    19. Aspartic Acid, 1/2 scoop, 1.5 g (http://www.vitacost.com/primaforce-d...c-acid-300-g-2)
    20. L-Leucine, 500 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/aro-vitacost...e-200-capsules)
    21. L-Isoleucine, 250 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/aro-vitacost...e-200-capsules)
    22. L-Valine, 250 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/aro-vitacost...e-200-capsules)
    23. L-Lysine, 250 mg (http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-l-l...roline-complex)
    24. L-Proline, 150 mg ([url]http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-l-lysine-l-proline-complex[/

    My goodness. That's one helluva a big advert for VitaCost.

    I'm so sorry to hear you're not feeling good on the ones you tried Malfon. Thank you for letting us know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistica View Post
    I have more questions, if I may.

    My question to you is, why did you chose a vegetarian source of protein as your staple?

    You speak of toxins, but I am not entirely clear what you mean.
    I do understand the definition and in fact, I am being treated for neurotoxic substances that are thought to being released by some nasty residents that have set up shop in my gut, but I am not sure what you mean.

    You speak of contamination. Are you speaking about antibiotic residues in meat?Perhaps you could clarify?

    I can see you have modified your diet to remove all the triggers which set your facial symptoms in motion. I have done the same, but without the excellent results that you have gained.
    Thus, I'd like to know, how have you established that it isn't the supplemental amino acids that aren't behind your recovery?
    I am not saying diet doesn't matter, as it certainly does. I'd be a mess if I veered off path, but I am not convinced that your formula hasn't tweaked neurotransmitters in some way.

    I'd appreciate your comments.
    By the way, I grill most people about their regimes, simply as I like to gather information.
    Mistica, Excellent post and thanks,

    Obviously there are things in my approach which I know through empirical testing, and then there are elements around which I am employing what is called a construct. A construct is a placeholder explanation, under who's philosophy I develop further tests to try. If the tests are effective, then I continue developing more tests and approaches which rely upon that explanation. The key for me, is to develop and test the explanation with dispassion, until I see that it either dies from falsification, or begins to be wholly explanatory. A lot of ideas I tried died. This one has not. I don't really like the 'toxin' explanation that I have come up with, but it is working thus far.

    [INDENT]1. Specific toxins are contained in specific foods, which either directly or indirectly cause rosacea (not all rosacea of course, but the skyrocketing version of it in the last 20 years). These toxins had to be eliminated from my diet. I tested this by elimination, falsification trial, selective addition, and repetition. The fact that these foods cause my rosacea is no longer in doubt. The testing for me is exhaustive, specific and final.

    But the "toxins" are placeholders only. I have some ideas what they might be, but I do not know because I cannot in my home fashion, step by step falsification tests to isolate what they indeed are. All I know is that the elimination of these specific foods works for me.

    2. Not consuming a complete array of "clean" carbs, fats, 18 proteins and minerals, slows your ability to recover (that is why so many varying types of pseudo cereals are in the mix, some are carb heavy, some are protein heavy and some are fat heavy) - The recovery definitely begins with Item 1 above. But consuming a complete array of carbs, protein, fat and minerals helps the body repair and recover fully from the damage created by the placeholder toxins in 1 above. Now this I have observed again empirically. There exists however a construct too, related to this principle #2, that of "food source." The idea is that the body will sound an alarm, must akin to a fever, when it is attempting to signal a problem. Again only an explanatory placeholder. That the body will manifest the problem in the face, until such time as the 'problem' is resolved. My construct is that the body will remove its alarm (rosacea being like a fever, a symptom of many underlying possible causes), once it determines that you have moved to a new and more suitable food source. This is what the complete array of "clean" foods, and the wide array of pseudo-cereals does. It convinces the body that the clan has moved to a more suitable region where food is a better match. The proteins must not be extracted from hard-bound or contaminated sources. Again, an explanatory construct married on top of an empirical observation.

    To your question - can it be that my formula has "tweaked neurotransmitters in some way" - Not bad at all. Which demonstrates the unfairness of my "toxin" construct. I will keep this in mind.

    So we have for #1, an empirical observation and test construct, and for #2 the same thing. 2 proven (for me) observations, and 2 explanatory frameworks under which tests are generated.

    They worked 100% for a 14 month period so far. My rosacea was extreme and was 365 days a year - constant. My face bled when I spoke, it was swollen, edemic, red, and covered in pustules. I tried over 100 topicals and cleansers both with and without my pharmacist, nothing even put a dent in it. Doxycyline was my rescue for most of this timeframe. But my dermatologist kept telling me that I had to come off it.

    The two observations and the two constructs have been 100% effective, for a severe case of rosacea, whereas other diet approaches were only partially effective, and topicals were completely ineffective.

    My corollary suppositions that seemed to factor in:

    a. Other diets failed or were partially ineffective for me because they always included one of the offending foods (by elimination based upon a close but incorrect principle).
    b. Those diets eliminated one of the key elements needed for recovery = nonessential proteins, or carbs, or inducing a shortfall in pre-biotic plant sterols, or an overabundance of Fermicutes Phyla bacteria - (which seem to play into the problem)
    c. Meats only contain a subset of the 18 proteins (ancient pseudo cereals and rice/pea proteins contain all 18 of the proteins). Not everyone makes non-essential proteins - some people have to consume them. So if one does not get all 18 - this can add confusion into the understanding of what is, and is not effective. But no, with meat I am more concerned about avoiding red meat than the possibility of neurotoxic residues.

    Which brings us to your cogent and absolutely valid-to-the-core focus on "toxins" and here is where I am thus far on it.

    My youngest son was born with a severe wheat intolerance. He suffered for a long period as we attempted to ascertain what was making him suffer so. I was desperate to find what was hurting my kid. It obsessed me. Finally we did, and we removed our entire family off wheat. His health returned 100%. It did not show up in the blood allergy tests. I will not go into the specifics but our health as a group jumped dramatically. Soon after I was beating my 5K run times from my days in Naval Intelligence. I felt wonderful. Our health changed completely. Wheat was killing my family. Later, I was in India where a firm I own was conducting a humanitarian project for the government. I was curious to look a bit at the 112 varietals of wheat consumed by this fascinating nation and sets of cultures. Under one proposal, in order to make up the shortfall in wheat in order to head off a coming famine, I proposed the importation of US wheat, as a temporary solution. People grew angry and accused me of being a Monsanto plant. LOL!! I was really taken aback by this. I have done work for Monsanto, and presented at the corporate offices in St. Louis and know the CEO. But I was not a Monsanto plant.

    Again in a Southwest Asian country I did a strategy to help establish their medical and pharmaceutical infrastructure. They were being raped by US Wholesalers, and the net effect was the suffering of their people. I noted in the data in the study - data which they do not give out - that the #1 disease in the urban centers on a US food diet, was diabetes. Yet, their Bedouin cousins, separated by only two generations, had almost no incidence of diabetes. I then pulled the data on the food being imported from the US. Wheat, corn, dairy. This led me down a long trek to find out WHY - why the people of India will only eat specific ancient wheats, why the poor in Africa are so healthy, and why Western diets appear to destroy health (in contrast to our excellent elimination of old world diseases).

    But I still had rosacea. A bad case.

    That is what started me on the "toxin" construct.
    It is not complete by any means. It is not even fair. I hate the idea.

    But it works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally View Post
    My goodness. That's one helluva a big advert for VitaCost.

    I'm so sorry to hear you're not feeling good on the ones you tried Malfon. Thank you for letting us know!
    This is childish.

    I do not wish to participate in a forum where low character people like you attempt to filter the discourse and bully people. I received PM's warning me about this. Did you know that there are people in this forum who are scared to post because of crap like this? Get a life and go grow some character. I am here to do what I can to help these people who are suffering as I was.

    You are here for your own selfishness.

    I am going to write the forum administrators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Viking View Post
    This is childish.

    I do not wish to participate in a forum where low character people like you attempt to filter the discourse and bully people. I received PM's warning me about this. Did you know that there are people in this forum who are scared to post because of crap like this? Get a life and go grow some character. I am here to do what I can to help these people who are suffering as I was.

    You are here for your own selfishness.

    I am going to write the forum administrators.

    I have objections against you calling other forum members 'low character people'. I will report this to the moderators too. I received pm's about you, but so what? It means nothing, isn't that a bit of a low blow to use against Sally? Sorry. Everyone who comes here is helping others, one way or another. You have been thanked by a lot of people, me included, for sharing what worked for you, but you are not the only one here who has opinions and this place is not a platform for individual forum members. It would suit you to inject a little bit of humor and self relativism into all this, Sally only made a slightly sarcastic comment, I don't think (personally) that it deserves such a strong reaction back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Viking View Post
    This is childish.

    I do not wish to participate in a forum where low character people like you attempt to filter the discourse and bully people. I received PM's warning me about this. Did you know that there are people in this forum who are scared to post because of crap like this? Get a life and go grow some character. I am here to do what I can to help these people who are suffering as I was.

    You are here for your own selfishness.

    I am going to write the forum administrators.

    Allow me to pinch some of your own words, Scot.... Desine excrementum taurorum

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