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    I woke up the two days ago with blotches on my face. I went out to a concert and had a few beers and it was quite hot out while tailgating. The next morning, I woke up with a swollen parts of my face and some more blotches and VERY itchy. Today my face is sore and still itchy but not as blotchy or swollen.

    Some background: I get rashes from my own sweat and from hot showers. I am not sure if I have rosacea-- but I have some permanent blotchiness on my face. I also suffer from dermographism urticaria and possibly cholinergic urticaria.

    Anyway, Does this like hives? Please help- I'm kind of freaking out here!

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    It could be a heat rash or an allergic reaction to something you ate or drink or even the heat. I have a similar reaction at times to the sun and to heat but I have PLE which is probably different than what you are experiencing.

    It does sound like some sort of allergic reaction and could be hives. I am sorry you are having this reaction but I am glad it is getting better. I would use cool compresses or even milk compresses and see if that helps at all.

    Hope you are feeling 100% better very soon!

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    ps have you ever asked your dermatologist about this? They could probably diagnose it no problem.

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    freeme, I'm guessing here, of course, but it is an educated guess. If you cannot think of something that might have given you contact dermatitis that night, then maybe the hives (plus you getting rashes from your own sweat and from hot showers) could be from your system being acidic. You can test this with pH strips that you can get at the drugstore or healthfood store.

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    Another possibility is that you triggered a flare up. You mentioned on July 11 you wondered if you had SD. If you have been diagnosed with rosacea you could consider what you were doing the night before, drinking beer, it was hot, and both of these may be triggers for you. Did you ever make an appointment for a dermatologist to get a diagnosis?
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    I also suffer from dermographism urticaria and possibly cholinergic urticaria.
    I too suffer from this, although these days, much less so.
    I was diagnosed by an immunologist.
    He recommended antihistamines, which do work to some extent for me.

    However, I find it best to avoid histamine rich and producing foods/beverages ( I note you had beer), while attempting to fix my damaged gut.

    http://www.michiganallergy.com/food_and_histamine.shtml

    These days my face does not sweat properly due to the damage incurred by long term rosacea and severe flushing, however, in the days I did sweat,the urticaria was worse and more frequent.

    I am fortunate in the fact the outbreaks in me, occur more on my legs, and torso, than on my face.

    Perhaps you could address your diet and see if that helps?

    Here's a tale of someone who implemented the GAPS diet to heal their varied health issues, including hives.

    http://goatcity.blogspot.com.au/2011...gaps-diet.html

    Might be worth a shot.
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    ps have you ever asked your dermatologist about this? They could probably diagnose it no problem.
    Hi Melissa-
    Thanks for your response.. I am doing better tonight. I went to my allergist and he said that in picture it looks like hives. (It was already almost gone when I went to the appt.) The only thing that I can think of is that on Thurs. I got my hair chemically relaxed and my hairdresser got some of solution on my face. But the weird thing is, I didn't breakout until Sunday with the hives after I was drinking and out on the sun on Sat. So weird-- but thanks again for your help!

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    freeme, I'm guessing here, of course, but it is an educated guess. If you cannot think of something that might have given you contact dermatitis that night, then maybe the hives (plus you getting rashes from your own sweat and from hot showers) could be from your system being acidic. You can test this with pH strips that you can get at the drugstore or healthfood store.

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    Hi Ghost- I think that it may have been the hair solution that got on my face when my hairdresser was straightening my hair- but I am not sure. My allergist said that it looked like hives but was weird that it was a delayed reaction and didn't occur until 2 days later. I will look into checking the ph of my body as it is possible that it's too acidic. Thanks for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady Barrows View Post
    Another possibility is that you triggered a flare up. You mentioned on July 11 you wondered if you had SD. If you have been diagnosed with rosacea you could consider what you were doing the night before, drinking beer, it was hot, and both of these may be triggers for you. Did you ever make an appointment for a dermatologist to get a diagnosis?
    Hi Brady,

    I have not been formally diagnosed with either rosacea or seb derm. I just kind of have been dealing with my skin as the derm really isn't sure what the problem is. He thinks that I have chronic allergies that show up on my skin. My allergist said that it looked like hives-- I do not think that my picture looks like a rosacea flare up? Thanks for your help!

    Mistica--

    Thanks for your input--I am sorry that you suffer from urticaria. It's quite a pain- but I am glad that you don't suffer bad anymore. I will look into the GAPS diet- thanks!

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    I'm just so confused with my skin. I had hives the other day- after drinking alcohol. I also slept at a friend's house who has a rabbit so I suppose the hives could have been from an an allergic reaction to the rabbit, I don't know. I also mentioned that I had my hair chemically relaxed and my hairdresser got some of the solution on my face-- but the hives didn't come until 2 days later which is odd.

    My skin has some dry patches of redness though-- I often wonder if I just have allergies with some seb derm- I really just don't know. I need to get back to the dermatologist but every time I go, they tell me that they're not sure what the problem is and it looks like allergies. Sigh!! I flush when it's really hot out like normal people do, sometimes flush with alcohol and when I exercise in hot temperatures. I read up on cholinergic urticaria and many people flush with alcohol and exercise when you have that. My face does not burn or anything, just feels warm. When I drink, I seem to only flush when I am worrying about it. My skin really does not look bad at all, I just cannot stop worrying about it!!

    Can allergies cause patchy redness? Maybe if I stopped worrying about my skin, it would go away-- as no one else can really see anything wrong with it. Has anyone found that their skin improved when they got their stress/anxiety under control? If so, I'd really like to hear from you! I feel like worrying about my skin is only causing me worse anxiety!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeme3 View Post
    I'm just so confused with my skin. I had hives the other day- after drinking alcohol. I also slept at a friend's house who has a rabbit so I suppose the hives could have been from an an allergic reaction to the rabbit, I don't know. I also mentioned that I had my hair chemically relaxed and my hairdresser got some of the solution on my face-- but the hives didn't come until 2 days later which is odd.

    My skin has some dry patches of redness though-- I often wonder if I just have allergies with some seb derm- I really just don't know. I need to get back to the dermatologist but every time I go, they tell me that they're not sure what the problem is and it looks like allergies. Sigh!! I flush when it's really hot out like normal people do, sometimes flush with alcohol and when I exercise in hot temperatures. I read up on cholinergic urticaria and many people flush with alcohol and exercise when you have that. My face does not burn or anything, just feels warm. When I drink, I seem to only flush when I am worrying about it. My skin really does not look bad at all, I just cannot stop worrying about it!!

    Can allergies cause patchy redness? Maybe if I stopped worrying about my skin, it would go away-- as no one else can really see anything wrong with it. Has anyone found that their skin improved when they got their stress/anxiety under control? If so, I'd really like to hear from you! I feel like worrying about my skin is only causing me worse anxiety!

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    Yes, allergies can cause patchy redness and it seems you have a number of potential causes. Stress can also make everything worse so yes, getting your anxiety under control can only help.

    First of all I suggest you stop drinking alcohol for a while to see if that helps since that could have caused or exacerbated your problem. Second of all next time you get your hair relaxed/etc tell the hair dresser to be extremely careful and not get any of the solution on your face. That stuff isn't good for anyone. In fact, you might be better off asking her/him to find something less toxic to use.

    About your face not burning when it turns red that's good and I don't want to add any extra worries as that may never change but that's how I started. When I was younger I would blush/flush but without the burning. It progressed to the burning sensation I now experience with any flush. So not to unnecessarily worry you but it wouldn't hurt for you try and find what is aggravating your face and stop exposing yourself to it if you can. The best way you can do this is trial and error and the easiest thing you can do is stop alcohol for now and see if that helps and try some relaxation techniques to help calm your mind and anxiety. You will be OK- don't worry. One day at a time.

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    freeme, there are delayed allergic reactions. So, the straightener could have been absorbed by the skin on your scalp (it's a very porous surface) and slowly caused the allergic symptoms to emerge.

    I agree with Melissa -- try to find something not toxic for your hair.

    There are some really good products out there that help you not fight your hair. Kerastase has a whole line for "rebellious" hair. Next, Moroccan oil (the original one with the blue label) is very soothing to the hair shaft. A lot of times hair looks frizzy because the shaft is all stressed and crumpled up. You can find a little sample bottle on line.

    The products I mention are expensive -- but they are gentle and work. You could get a bunch of them for the price of a professional straightening.

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