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    So i saw my derm today and he said he was at a conference in Cleveland for botox. He talked to the woman and they concluded it would be possible to use it to help for flushing/pain, although she hasnt done it. He said it has been used for lupus and other conditions. He has another really good specialist here and I am being referred to him. Says we'll see what he says, but it's worth a try at least on one side of my face.

    What do you guys think? Also argh, needles im so afraid of them! haha. Hopefully it would be okay (no bruising/swelling stiff cheeks) and also i hope it doesnt affect my pustules/papules - especially since i think they put some topical on you beforehand?!

    Anyone know also if you can do this in conjunction with PDL (vbeam, yag, etc.) Seeing as the botox wont help redness if it is combined with PDL (obviously with time between) perhaps it could address all the symptoms - flushing, redness, pain.

    Thanks guys! (ps i changed my username as you can tell)

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    Hi -

    I get Botox injections in my crow's feet and forehead every four months, it's not very painful. Feels like minor pricks on the skin. If you go to an experienced Dr. who's good at injections (often you will see Botox certificates and awards at the Dr's office) you will be fine. I'd not go to Day Spa's or Dr's who discount these services - often they have less experience and sometimes the Botox can be diluted, needle is larger, etc. My Derm. uses a fine needle and small amounts of Botox only (a very natural look). I've never had any issues swelling, droopiness, etc. Note, do not take Advil or ibuprofen (or any other medications that can cause brusing or increase bleeding) for atleast 5 days beforehand.

    Good luck.

    Yvette

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    I have read several reports, some say it did nothing, others say it really helped and in some cases even resolved the flushing/pain. It is hit and miss from what I have read so let us know how it goes and good luck to you.

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    Botoc for rosacea is not the same as botox for wrinlkes. It is not injected into the muscle but is given subcutaneous. Can't find someone to do it though. Bunch of idiots out there
    Arlene

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    Quote Originally Posted by arb161 View Post
    Botoc for rosacea is not the same as botox for wrinlkes. It is not injected into the muscle but is given subcutaneous. Can't find someone to do it though. Bunch of idiots out there
    Arlene
    LOL Arlene
    I couldn't agree more -
    And my tolerance level for them is decreasing

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    I suffer from severe and painful flushing. A little over a year ago, my pain management doctor tried the full face botox on me, after he had heard of and researched some of the success stories. I have to say it was extremely painful - nothing like having your forehead done. And sadly, after going through getting over 100 shots in my face, it really did nothing to help. With that said, I have heard stories of it helping flushing, but I'm not aware of anyone personally who has benefited. And yes, I did have topical numbing cream as well as pain meds, but it still hurt like nothing I have ever experienced. Also, because of the regular flushing, my face bled a lot during the procedure, resulting in some short term bruising.

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    So sorry to hear that Meg. Like everything else works for some and not others.
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    You are absolutely right.
    There are soooooooo many jerks with machines out there. They are worse than used car salesmen ( sorry to the used car salesmen). Try to sell you procedures and products. Hate it when you know more about the disease than they do. This one set a tech on me while she pumped my friend with botox and tried to sell her on a lifestyle lift. Bragged to her that she doesn't look 60- looks every bit of it. Stuck at the moment because of my leg. Plaquenil helping and trying to maintain so will do 2 more and get the hell out. Then will rat her out to Dept of health because illegal to use tech in NJ. Hopes she likes her license
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    This disease and these docs are making me very nasty and angry
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    Arlene,
    No need to apologise. We have every right to our feelings and truly it is tiresome and frustrating to deal with some of these so called health professionals. I find my tolerance is very low these days for stupidity and know-it-alls who certainly don't know-it-all


    It also doesn't help that (I find) few take pride in a good work ethic and really care about what they do. And I am not just talking about doctors. I am talking about everywhere I go. It seems there are so many lazy people who don't care about what they are doing and it shows. Sometimes, especially lately, I feel surrounded by apathy and ineptitude.
    OK I am done with my mini vent.

    I hope your leg is healing well and you will be good to go soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvette View Post
    Hi -

    I get Botox injections in my crow's feet and forehead every four months, it's not very painful. Feels like minor pricks on the skin. If you go to an experienced Dr. who's good at injections (often you will see Botox certificates and awards at the Dr's office) you will be fine. I'd not go to Day Spa's or Dr's who discount these services - often they have less experience and sometimes the Botox can be diluted, needle is larger, etc. My Derm. uses a fine needle and small amounts of Botox only (a very natural look). I've never had any issues swelling, droopiness, etc. Note, do not take Advil or ibuprofen (or any other medications that can cause brusing or increase bleeding) for atleast 5 days beforehand.

    Good luck.

    Yvette
    do u get botox for flushing?? crows feet im sorry dumb question but your feet??

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