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    The following questions come from a biochemist with whom I discuss rosacea.
    He is trying to solve the riddle.
    So far he is pretty certain we suffer from cryptic bacteria and gut biofilm bacteria.
    I provide him with a wealth of information, some of my own research, that of Dan's ( see topical vitamin D3 section) and many examples of personal cases, from this forum and of course my own.

    From time to time he asks questions I can't answer and thus, I would like to post them here with the hope that anyone who has had experience with the particular subjects will post about them.

    QUESTIONS:

    1) Has anyone had an appendectomy during the course of their rosacea?
    If so, did it have any impact on the course of disease, either negatively, or positively?

    2) Other than those who have already posted ( I have already searched the database), has anyone taken PEG in preparation for a colonoscopy?
    If so, did it impact on the rosacea?
    How?

    3) How many feel oil based preparations inflame their rosacea and or seb/derm?
    (The purpose of this question is to determine if a moderately anaerobic skin surface alters the metabolism of cryptic bacteria).

    4) And a connected question.
    Unlikely, ..... has anyone ever been in a hyperbaric chamber?
    If so, how did it impact the rosacea?

    I thought I would add on my own question here. Has anyone ever had one of those intraceutical treatments which supposedly infuse oxygen into the skin with a hand held device?

    4) Has anyone used hydrogen peroxide on their faces?
    If so, what was the reaction?

    5) Has anyone taken pepto bismol?
    If so, what effects, if any on rosacea?

    Thanks!
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    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    Hey there,

    Sorry, I can't help you with these questions with any direct personal experience, but I do remember reading (on this forum I think) about someone who used a hyperbaric chamber and found that there rosacea went into remission.
    Sorry I couldn't be more help

    Naun

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    3) For sure. But I think this has a lot to do with being on long-term antibiotics. It didn't used to be an issue.

    What are cryptic bacteria?

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    2) [...] has anyone taken PEG in preparation for a colonoscopy? If so, did it impact on the rosacea? How?
    I have, quite recently, and it didn't impact on my skin (which has been calm and rather pale for months now).
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    I've treated seb derm successfully with raw honey and virgin coconut oil and have been symptom-free since June '09. Follow this ---> link <--- for details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMediumDog View Post
    3) For sure. But I think this has a lot to do with being on long-term antibiotics. It didn't used to be an issue.

    What are cryptic bacteria?
    I believe the biochemist uses the term 'cryptic' to mean bacteria which hide inside the host cell and have several life stages.
    Cryptic is one of them. It is a state of hibernation when the bacteria are not active.

    Cpn is one example. You can read about the life cycles here:

    http://www.cpnhelp.org/about_cpn
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auburn-NH View Post
    I have, quite recently, and it didn't impact on my skin (which has been calm and rather pale for months now).
    So, just to clarify, you are saying your rosacea wasn't particularly active prior to the colonoscopy and remained the same afterwards, with no further improvement?

    Thanks!
    Previous Numerous IPL.
    Supplements: Niacinamide, Vit K2, low D3, Moderate Dose Vit C, Iodine, Taurine, Magnesium. Very low dose B's. Low dose zinc (to correct deficiency).
    Skin Care: No Cleanser, ZZ cream mixed with Niacinamide gel 4% and LMW HA.

    Treating for gut dysbiosis under specialist care. (This is helping).
    Previous GAPS diet. Testing tolerance of resistant starch.
    Fermented Foods. 2 to 3 days per week, Intermittent fasting -16-18 hours.

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    I'd have to say no to all of those. I did take Pepto once when I had the flu and promptly threw it back up. That was way before my rosacea started in the first place though.

    Sorry I couldn't have been of any help, but I just wanted to say that the more people trying to solve this the better. I wish your friend luck.

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    QUESTIONS:

    1) Has anyone had an appendectomy during the course of their rosacea?
    If so, did it have any impact on the course of disease, either negatively, or positively?

    I had my appendix out when I was 7 so have no idea the impact on my rosacea.


    2) Other than those who have already posted ( I have already searched the database), has anyone taken PEG in preparation for a colonoscopy?
    If so, did it impact on the rosacea?
    How?

    Yes I have taken it. No effect, but I wasn't in a flare at the time.

    3) How many feel oil based preparations inflame their rosacea and or seb/derm?
    (The purpose of this question is to determine if a moderately anaerobic skin surface alters the metabolism of cryptic bacteria).

    I don't think so. Emu oil seems to be the only long term moisturiser I can use.

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    Originally Posted by Auburn-NH
    I have, quite recently, and it didn't impact on my skin (which has been calm and rather pale for months now).
    Quote Originally Posted by Mistica View Post
    So, just to clarify, you are saying your rosacea wasn't particularly active prior to the colonoscopy and remained the same afterwards, with no further improvement?
    Hi Mistica,

    The PEG did not impact on the rosacea.

    (My symptoms are flushing -triggered by emotions, heat and exertion- and slight pinkness on cheeks, chin and upper chest.)
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    I've treated seb derm successfully with raw honey and virgin coconut oil and have been symptom-free since June '09. Follow this ---> link <--- for details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistica View Post
    QUESTIONS:

    3) How many feel oil based preparations inflame their rosacea and or seb/derm?
    (The purpose of this question is to determine if a moderately anaerobic skin surface alters the metabolism of cryptic bacteria).
    Hi Mistica

    The answers to all of your questions are no, from me. Apart from question 3.

    I have found natural oils to be very helpful for my skin. I've tried many over the years. Found them to be soothing on my skin. I do have my favourites though, that I change from time to tme, so that they don't lose their effect.

    I was once told that my skin was neither oily nor dry (although it feels like it's both sometimes). They said my skin was dehydrated. I've approached this on a number of angles. Fresh food diet and natural oils, just 2 or 3 drops on a damp face. Also using my red LED array is calming.

    Jen

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