Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 18 of 18

Thread: Congratulations to my Southern Neighbours

  1. #11
    Senior Member J-Mill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    876

    Default Can't figure it

    Quote Originally Posted by boyandhisdog View Post
    J-
    I know you didn't mean it as a sweeping indictment of all McCain supporters. I just wanted to give you a hard time.
    Interesting point you bring up about the US and war heroes. However, since I am a veteran of the 10th Mountain Division Light Infantry I voted for everyone on your list save one and I will leave it to you to guess which one.
    Yours,
    Rob
    If I was going to make a sweeping statement, I would say that the failure to abandon support after his VP choice makes you...well either crazy or perhaps a proponent of chaos theory...you know what the hell the more confusion the better ;-)






    Seriously I appreciate the whole "not a Washington insider" angle and the folksy charm. Still, you would think there was someone who fit that bill and could sensibly answer a question about an issue of considerable national importance. In Canada we had a similar problem with the leader of our Liberal party in the last election but he didn't speak or understand English very well (il parle français très bien cependant). That breath of fresh air got stale pretty quick.

    BTW your service is commendable, but it seems you will never be president.
    "Get busy living or get busy dying."

  2. #12
    Senior Member J-Mill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    876

    Default When he

    Quote Originally Posted by man_from_mars View Post
    It may be a little late - but you can always try Rob ...
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/algore2008/
    When Al Gore invented the internet, do you think he did so with the knowledge that he would help Obama win the presidency in 2008?
    "Get busy living or get busy dying."

  3. #13
    Senior Member TheMediumDog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,526

    Default

    The appointment of Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff should put an end to all the illusions of some kind of transcendental 'hope' and 'change'. It is depressing to see grown adults so easily fooled, just by a bit of skillful rhetoric and an attractive personality.

    It was exactly the same in the UK ten years ago. Just because Tony Blair looked like a 'genuine guy', whole swathes of people were taken in by his claims that there was some kind of 'new dawn', some sort of era-defining change. Whereas in fact, all metrics of social health - inequality, poverty, class mobility etc - stayed the same or got worse.

    Elections are machines for generating idiocy.

  4. #14
    Moderator phlika29's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Dorset, UK
    Posts
    8,371

    Default

    Whilst it is so easy to criticise one would hope then that you have a workable alternative that you are actively pursuing.

    There is nothing more disheartening than for people who made the effort to vote to be told that they were hoodwinked and I do not believe that in this early stage you can make this assumption.

  5. #15
    Retired Moderator
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,451

    Default

    MfM: Good guess Al! That's the one.
    I can find some comfort in the fact McCain was not elected as hopefully now Sarah Palin is free to appear in Playboy!
    Alex: I very much appreciate your take on Rahm Emanuel.
    Rob
    Last edited by boyandhisdog; 6th November 2008 at 12:36 PM.

  6. #16
    Retired Moderator
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,451

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sweden View Post
    So what happened after Clinton was elected? An extremely strong economy thats what happened.
    Sweden:
    Clinton and Carter (as named above) were just about polar opposites and I didn't think you were old enough to remember life in the US under Carter. It wasn't too great, trust me, 18% interest rates, rapid inflation are not the stuff dreams are made of.
    It could easily be argued that the economy under Clinton was the benefactor of some of the policies enacted during the first Bush, Clinton significantly lowered business taxes (something Obama has not pledged to do) and the natural bounce back of the recession/unemployment we entered at the end of his single term- albeit that is not to say Clinton was a bad president. Forgetting for a moment that he lied under oath, received oral sex from a pudgy intern in the Oval office, and was in fact impeached (albeit not removed from office), he governed as a slightly left centrist which helped the economy. I feel confident that the economy will improve under Barack. We are in a recession now (albeit we have not met the textbook definition as yet), and will be in one for awhile. But, inevitably, we will bounce out of it as we have always done.
    With Obama as president, McCain were elected, or if you were elected, the likelihood is great that the recession will naturally end during the next 4 years and whoever is sitting in that seat will be the beneficiary of "getting us out of this mess" and will claim complete responsibility for ending it. If it doesn't, as a politician, you can be sure that it will certainly be someone else's fault.
    Rob
    Last edited by boyandhisdog; 6th November 2008 at 07:03 PM.

  7. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    416

    Default

    Everything you said is probably right, the fact remains that you(?) and many others reelected someone like Bush four years ago... ;)

  8. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    1,102

    Default

    I know little about British politics; rather less about American politics.
    But, I can say this, America seems a rather more pleasant and reasonable and gentle place today, than it did last week.

    Two very decent candidates but I wouldn't say, as a rule, that a large turnout is an indication of democratic good health.

Similar Threads

  1. Southern California Rosacea Specialists?
    By Rand627 in forum North America
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 6th January 2011, 12:38 AM
  2. CONGRATULATIONS GIANTS!!!!
    By Melissa W in forum Off-topic discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 4th February 2008, 09:19 PM
  3. Congratulations melissawohl
    By Twickle Purple in forum Meta-forum discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 14th September 2007, 11:35 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •