Originally Posted by
jmb212121
Wow! I am amazed at some of the negativity on this site! Peter, I am sorry that you feel that you have to put down my child over his spelling, experience, etc. It's shameful to see a grown adult talk that kind of trash.
Hello Silvia (and no doubt Jordan)
Well you are entitled to your opinion but I can ensure you that the three main rosacea sites, this one, the RSF and RSG have some amazing positive people, doing their utmost in their spare time to help others who suffer from this horrible condition. These members do this for free, in their own private time but Nase does it for a living and Forums like these are rich pickings for him with people desperate for some relief and willing to pay any amount. Ask yourself why Nase was permanently banned from this one (ironically created specifically for him), the RSG and the ESB, the latter he caused their whole rosacea section to be shut down due to his selfish and corruptive antics. Usually the only time this site gets negative is when the subject of Nase crops up especially when new people arrive telling us what a wonderful human being he is.
I am sorry that you are offended by some of my "trash" but your son did open up with me by calling me a "hater" and later on made other references to "gay" and how I am not a nice person plus how much money he was going to make in comparison to me. Jordon is no doubt just a young innocent kid but having viewed his site and seen some of the language used, well then he looks very street wise to me. When I replied to Jordon's first post then I did say I wasn't sure it was Nase (I will explain later) and if he was genuine than I congratulated him on his success and referred him to the thread Jen had opened up for reports on treatments at the RTIT. What I didn't want to have to read on this thread was a whole load of tosh on Nase and what a great person he is blah blah because as shown it just irritates some of us and causes trouble. I have seen and been on the receiving end of threats and abuse from Nase himself, some of the characters he impersonates and friends, in his quest to bump up his own prestige, basically to make money in the rosacea world. Your son wrote to me in a PM last night and I'm sure he will not mind me quoting him:
"Look for all i know nase could be maken up a **** load of lies to me and just be one hell of actor. But i just dont think thats the case."
My answer is yes he is a liar and also good actor.
Some of us were tough on your son initially because he said he had read up on Nase and he didn't care about his behaviour. That is the same as saying he is comfortable with someone lying, defrauding, impersonating others, making vicious personal attacks, faking treatment reports, doctoring scientific reports, etc. etc, and he thinks the community as a whole has no right to be protected from a scammer. I hope Jordon will acknowledge that members on here have every right to speak about Nase as they do. By the way what do you think of cancer-fakers especially those who do it to win sympathy? Well Nase did.
One of the reasons I was suspicious of Jordon first up was because we have had spoof posters on here before, comprising of either Nase himself or others he persuades on to bump his image up or promote the RTIT. It always seems odd to me when someone joins on here just to praise the clinic and Nase so lavishly, unless someone has asked them to post a review. I don't think anybody doubts Jordon is a genuine person but Nase has a long history on and off the Forums of impersonating others, including the New York physician "J.J.", a patient called "Maria Cappolla", his wife Jennifer, his sister Donna, his neighbour Amanda. He always got caught because he couldn't disguise his writing style or made mistakes and it was always so obviously Nase. If you want the proof I will find all the links for you to read.
Even when Nase fakes photos to pretend that his rosacea is in remission he messes up. Look at this and note "redbegone" was Nase himself in yet another guise: Take a look at his pictures and then compare them with those from the court case a year earlier.
http://forum.rosaceagroup.org/viewto...t=4516&start=0
All he does is lie, including pretending that his rosacea is in remission. It isn't and that is why he will never let anybody see him face to face. Do you think this is fair and don't you think by doing this he is committing fraud? Nase always gave the impression that he works at the RTIT in Texas but doesn't because he works at home in Indiana.
At the ESFB board a recruiter posting praise for Nielson's clinic was caught writing under two different names and fake "personalities" (Corvette and Rosie) with changed writing styles to make them look different from Nase. He has learnt that he has to create really colourful characters not to be caught again, so your sons "rapper" style might have people reacting with suspicion but he shouldn't take it personally. It's just that Nase has been such a harmful presence that as I mentioned earlier he has had to be banned for life from the big rosacea groups.
Despite what you think he is not
"a nice guy tryin to help people" but a scam artist trying to make a living by conning people. I could go on and on especially about RLT which he trashed out of spite and even got friends and supporters on here to tell lies on his behalf.
At the end of the day the main thing for you is that Jordon's rosacea is much better but don't expect all of us to agree with you and your son's views on Nase. I am tired and I expect the others who have heard this all before are bored but I wanted to take time for you to understand what has gone before.
Regards
Peter
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