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    Thanks for the input everyone!

    Its been about a week since my second Genesis treatment
    and my condition has definately worsened.
    The constant redness, flushing and burning are all worse.
    It is very discourageing!
    I had hoped this may help but at least wont hurt but so
    far it is going very poorly.
    I'll be pretty devastated to spend all this money and end up
    making my life worse! :evil:

    Here is my photo showing the redness and flushing
    I am trying to treat.


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    Ivan
    I know how you feel- believe me. Ive had a lot of failed treatments and its definately a horrible feeling when things go bad.
    But I'm undergoing treatments similiar to yours - combination PDL/yag and my experience has been that for the first few weeks things are worse and then get better. I hope this is the case for you
    Arlene

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    Lasers/IPL have inconsistent results. The laser genesis protocol is too mild in my opinion and experience to shut down capillaries.

    I am not exactly sure your pic shows rosacea especially the location of the red spot below your chin makes me very suspicious it is some inflamatory reaction. Is that redness constant redness and are you applying any topicals currently/facewashes/sunscreens?

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    Thanks for the encouragement ARB, I'll try to stay positive.

    Orange, I agree that Genesis does not appear to have the
    'horsepower' needed to shut down the capillaries and such but
    many people have had sucess with it for flushing so go figure :?

    I knew it may not help, but never expected it to make it
    worse as it is so mild (however my operator seems to run
    her Genesis a bit more aggressive than most)

    I did not want to undergo any treatment that might cause
    hypo pigmentation because my next treatment attempt will
    be melanotan to see if a tan and whatever skin health benefits
    come from it help me.

    I was born with rosy cheeks and it has just spread over the
    years to cover what you see, as well as my nose.
    I have tried many many things and nothing has ever helped.
    It is constant redness and flushing. It is usually best in the
    morning and worsens throughout the day. If I lightly
    touch my skin it flares redder. If the air temperature is below
    18 degrees and above 23 degrees celcius the red parts
    are painful.

    I use some mild moisturizer as my skin is flaky dry as well
    as oily at the same time.

    I dont drink alcohol, drink coffee, eat sugar and low carbs.

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    Hang in there, it is still too soon to see the results, and it's really common for things to be worse for the first couple of weeks, due to the increased blood flow to the face due to the damage to the vessels. I flush for crazy for about two weeks after laser treatment but later see good results.

    I'm still confused as to what laser is being used on you, from what i could google there are a number of different machines that carry the name genesis. I found one that had both IPL and Yag 1064nm? It this what your having? The brand of the platform is less important than the type of laser it is (ie KTP 532nm, Yag 1064, PDL 595nm), So are you being treated with IPL or Yag or KTP or a combination, it's hard to give more specific advice without that info. Sorry if you have already said that and i just missed it.
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    Tried: Propranolol, Clonidine, Dorxy, Finacea, IPL, Betablockers, NSAIDs.
    Now: Avanza, V-beam, H1, H2, Rosex, Singulair, Friendly food diet.

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    Ivan
    Just wanted to add that post treatment I find Balmex helpful in calming down some of my flushing. You can get it in any drug store or supermarket- usually in the section with baby supplies. Its mostly zinc oxide.
    Arlene

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    Froggirl: It is a combo IPL and 1064 laser made by Cutera.

    I am only getting the 1064 right now and will see how it turns out.

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    Cool thanks!

    Hope you see some results soon. If not, at least it has the benefit of treating wrinkles and skin texture!

    Orange, I agree that Genesis does not appear to have the
    'horsepower' needed to shut down the capillaries and such but
    many people have had sucess with it for flushing so go figure
    My laser derm said that he had a few cases where Yag 1064nm treatment helped flushing but the exact mechanism is unclear. It's not the same process as KTP or PDL where the blood vessels are actually destroyed. He said the theory behind it is that somehow the heating of the skin and the subsequent collagen stimultation does something, but no one is quite sure what. Although the mechanism is irrelevant if it works!

    It is somewhat unusual to have just Yag though, i think most people on these forums who've had success with yag have had yag at the same time as KTP or PDL or IPL. So that both the deep vessels and superfical vessels are targeted at the same time.
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    Tried: Propranolol, Clonidine, Dorxy, Finacea, IPL, Betablockers, NSAIDs.
    Now: Avanza, V-beam, H1, H2, Rosex, Singulair, Friendly food diet.

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    I had pdl (vbeam) alone- worked for a while. IPl &yag- didn't work -yag alone- didn't work. Now PDL/Yag combination. Has been making things better but too early to tell if it will be totally successful. Can tell (after 6 treatments) I still need more work. Treatment painful and Very long recovery though. Lots of post treatment swelling. This last time went too aggressive and had blisters. But after 5 weeks things are better. Still have spots of hyperpigmentation- that will take a long time

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    I am feeling a bit better about the laser treatment now.
    I cant say there has been much improvement yet, but the
    extra redness and flushing has now subsided and I am back
    to normal.

    Back to the clinic tomorrow for treatment number 3.

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