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    Based on this excellent article found by a support group memeber, I'd like to try the yellow LED in addition to my red/near infrared. I emailed acnelamp.com and they said they would make some. Anyone tried the yellow? Any feedback? -Artist


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    Combining light-based treatments, topicals for rosacea
    Aug 1, 2006
    By: Louise Gagnon



    National report — Light-based treatment, in combination with topical
    treatment, is effective in relieving the symptoms of rosacea such as
    acne, flushing and redness, one dermatologist says.

    "Systemic or topical treatments are clearly efficacious in the
    treatment of acne that occurs within the setting of rosacea, but do
    little for the redness or flushing," says David Goldberg, M.D.,
    director of Skin Laser & Surgery Specialists of New York and New
    Jersey and a clinical professor of dermatology and director of laser
    research at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York.

    "Conversely, laser and laser light technology are highly effective in
    the treatment of rosacea-induced redness and flushing, but don't work
    well for the acne component of the condition. Nothing says you can't
    combine standard treatment — that is, topical — with light-based
    treatment," he says.

    Patients who seek treatment from Dr. Goldberg generally have not found
    relief with medications exclusively, and are seeking alternatives for
    their symptoms, he says. Dr. Goldberg typically offers light sources,
    such as intense pulsed light (IPL) and light-emitting diode (LED)
    devices, to optimize outcome.

    The advantage of a therapy like IPL is that it decreases erythema and
    decreases the number of vessels in the skin and, therefore, the
    flushing of the skin. The IPL is frequently combined with LED
    treatments of various colors that have unique properties.

    Technology differences

    "Each technology does something a little different," Dr. Goldberg
    says. "The yellow LED and IPL both lessen redness, so they work in
    synergy. We will often combine the yellow LED with red LED, the latter
    of which works well on the inflammation of the condition."

    The LED devices do not cause pain and are not thermal, in contrast to
    laser technologies, according to Dr. Goldberg.

    "There is no risk such as scarring when using LED devices," Dr.
    Goldberg says. "They can also work on any skin type, including ethnic
    skin. You have to be more careful in using laser and laser-like
    technologies because of their thermal effect."

    Because lasers target melanin and there is greater melanin present in
    darker-skinned individuals, light absorption via the laser is
    inhibited, Dr. Goldberg explains. In contrast, the use of LED
    treatments for rosacea is an option for all patients.

    If a treatment such as metronidazole formulation is applied, and
    inflammation arises, an LED device can treat the inflammation. In
    addition, the use of LED minimizes the amount of topical metronidazole
    that needs to be applied to the skin.

    "Some topical treatments are effective and very commonly used, but
    potentially very irritating," Dr. Goldberg says.

    Antibiotics

    If patients have severe rosacea, characterized by acne and
    inflammation, clinicians may prescribe antibiotics, such as
    minocycline administered orally; a topical agent; and light-based
    treatment.

    "The symptoms vary, so the treatments vary," Dr. Goldberg says. "You
    might have the patient on antibiotics for a month or two, but the goal
    would be to get them off antibiotics. If the patient, for instance,
    were planning to get pregnant, being on antibiotics would be an issue.
    It would be preferable to use topical treatment and IPL/LED. They can
    have that treatment throughout pregnancy."

    For middle-aged men who have rosacea and dilated blood vessels,
    typically on the sides of their nose, IPL is not effective to treat
    their larger blood vessels, so other light devices are necessary.

    "In that instance, we would use a KTP (potassium-titanyl-phosphate) or
    Nd:YAG (neodymium:yttrium aluminum garnet) laser, allowing us to
    selectively target the dilated blood vessels and make them smaller,"
    Dr. Goldberg says.

    The most severe form of rosacea is rare, but features a bulbous nose,
    and is treated with a more aggressive laser, Dr. Goldberg notes.

    "They have what is referred to as a Jimmy Durante nose," Dr. Goldberg
    says. "It occurs in older men. That will not respond to any oral or
    topical medication. This problem has to be treated with an ablative
    laser such as an erbium or carbon dioxide (CO2) laser."

    Patients should reduce the triggers that dilate blood vessels and
    cause skin flushing such as alcohol, spicy foods and sun exposure, Dr.
    Goldberg advises.

    "Cutting back on those triggers will lessen the symptoms," he says.
    "It's a matter of moderation."

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    I have ordered a couple hand held units from the ledman. I have a small all red prototype he just did up that has 96 LEDs, is about the size of a pack of cards and is really light weight. Based on that I've ordered an all yellow and a red+yellow combo. I should have them next week.

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    Hi Artist and TP

    I would be very interested to hear how things go with yellow light thrown into the ring, so to speak. I don't know of anyone trying yellow light at the moment, well, nobody who has posted about it anyway (unless I've missed it).

    Please do up-date on how you feel it works TP.

    Thanks.

    Jen

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    Hi Jen: Sure thing. I'm hoping to get it within a week.

    Cheers!

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    Will do Ma'am.

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    I've got the two little handhelds now. 96 LEDs per. One all yellow and one a mix of red + yellow. I already had an all red one. The little hand helds put out heat (the manufacturer runs up the power to increase the brightness). So what I'm doing is using each til they get warm and then just pop another colour head on. What I'll likely do after chocolate season is over (aka Christmas) is put the red handhelds away and use the yellow only.

    Artist, do you have your yellow Acnelamp yet?

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    Not yet. They did not offer it until I asked them if they could get one for me. Now they offer it on their site..he he he!! Anyway, I imagine it is taking a while to get the first batch together. I may not use it right away since I'm still early on with the red/near-infrared lamp. Almost five weeks now and I'm hooked! I just had Indian food and was delighted to see no redness afterwards. Of course, I steer clear of the really spicy dishes, but it all has a little bit of a kick to it. I wondered if my am RLT helped. It's hard to say becauase my food triggers can be unpredictable. I used the light for 15 minutes in the morning, then had the dish at 2pm. I wonder if using it just before a meal I know will bother my rosacea will allow me to eat more trigger foods. Well I will just have to experiment. Oh Darn..I'll have to eat all sorts of forbidden foods soon ;)

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    I've been very bad lately and have been enjoying previously forbidden foods (I love curry and chocolate brandy beans), and when I flush after from the heat, or what-have-you, I use my LEDs. My face clears very quickly. I am waking up mornings almost always very pale now. My skin is looking kind of sallow actually without the red -- I think it needs a bit of sunlight.

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    Twickle: Yeah me too! I wake up pale. Usually that first few hours I have pinkness on my upper cheeks, then it disappears as the day wears on. It drives me nuts because I can't figure out why. With the red light, though, I'm pale in the morning - so far...touch wood. It's been especially great since I switched to using it in the morning before getting out of bed. Seems like it just prevents that morning reaction I get. Also I can use it before something I think will make me flare like having company over with snacks and such, and knowing we will have the fireplace on. It's great! I'm going to try using it just before eating a meal that would normally make me flare. Maybe something like pizza or spaghetti. This might be pushing it, but worth a try. I'm only approaching week five.

    Twickle you might like to try the RLT before eating the foods and see what happens. Let us know!!!

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    In the name of science, I must have chocolate! I will indulge tonight. But use the LEDs for 10 minutes prior.

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