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Congrats on your success !!!!! Do yourself a favor and just eat healthy and live life !! Continue with the Soolantra if you are having great results . I am on a gluten free diet , not because of rosacea , and it has zero impact on my face . I pretty much try to eat healthy but splurge alot on all kinds of junk food . And still my face continues to improve because of Oracea and topicals :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie
Hi John, demodex is found on all humans, but only some individuals have a reaction to demodex. Therefore, it's reasonable to conclude: (1) the problem for afflicted people is an allergic reaction to demodex; (2) the allergic reaction is most likely the decaying body parts of demodex, as they have total life span of about 23-24 days, and do not have an excretory opening during life; and, (3) Soolantra is an insecticide (or miticide, or acaracide), designed to suppress or eradicate demodex, an arachnid.
Accordingly, the most rational conclusion from the numerous Soolantra-success stories is that demodex induced or worsened rosacea in people who have a allergic reaction to demodex.
Here's a 2015 medical article on the subject of demodectic rosacea: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3884930/
However, medical science doesn't have a full explanation for allergic reactions -- as a result they tend to be ignored.
The connection to gut-level allergies is only that the immune system has a sort of "budget" to handle allergic reactions -- if a person has a gut-type allergy, then controlling the gut-type allergy will allow the immune system to exert more effective control other allergic reactions, such as demodectic rosacea or demodectic blepharitis.
I have found that after using this cream my breakouts are more severe but heal much quicker. I had crazy pustule outbreak on saturday & sunday, by monday my skin was almost clear and today it was completely clear, you cant even tell i broke out just a few days ago. Im going to go on a green diet with some probiotics and vitamins to see if my gut is the underlying issue here.
Hi guys, I've not posted here before, however I've done a lot of lurking and thought I should share my experience using Soolantra so far as a way of giving back to a community that has [unknowingly] answered a lot of my questions.
Just a bit of history... I would say my rosacea is on the milder side. I've had flushing from all the usual triggers since I was a teenager (I'm 31 now), as well as generally sensitive and irritable skin. I was put on a low dose of roaccutane when I was 22 which gave me perfect skin for several years, except for the usual flushing. In recent years my skin has become dull, spotty and blotchy, developed some broken capillaries, and the redness has moved in permanently. I noticed on one cheek especially it looked like every pore was blocked, some with tiny white specks that seemed to poke out of the pore. While on a holiday at the beach over new year's Eve I caught a bit too much sun and since then the texture on that one cheek felt rough, and could not be fixed with any amount of moisturiser.
I got fed up having one red, rough and pimply cheek and went to see my dermatologist about 3 weeks ago. She confirmed I had rosacea and prescribed Soolantra as it has only just been released here and I guess she was keen for some guinea pigs! The first week of using it my skin was extremely itchy around the jawline and I developed lots of small bumps, especially around my jawline and on my cheeks. I also think it made my skin more red in general. I was worried I was having an allergic reaction and thought about stopping the treatment, but ended up coming here to search for other people's experiences and decided to continue.
So far I'm glad I didn't stop as the texture of my skin now feels amazing. The trouble cheek has not been breaking out at all and no longer feels rough. I love running my fingers over my cheek as it's so smooth! I hope I'm not jinxing myself by typing this.
There's definitely still redness and some blotches where old spots were, but overall my skin feels and looks clearer. The only negative at the moment is that my skin is a bit dry during the day with some flaking...which is something I don't usually have to much of a problem with, but is also manageable.
I typed this on my phone, so apologies for any typos. I'm happy to answer any questions anyone may have. :)
Gemantra - I keep rubbing my cheeks as well because I can't get over how smooth they are! It is also nice to touch my face and not be stressed about having pimples in the morning!
I can't help but believe that my skin must be linked to my digestive system but yes, I have no proof for this and I understand that no link has been proven. I have some autoimmune antibodies showing up (RNP+) in my blood work so I feel like I need to take control of my diet regardless.
Thanks for the information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Busby
What I want to enphasize is based on the studies a late break out is not usual. Normally the skin improves week by week. Maybe on a few patients there are late breakouts but this is not the normal way. So I am relatively disillusioned. I will keep treatment until week eight. But hope has gone a little bit.
Currently I look like a teenager with acne and a sunburn on my nose and cheeks blush:
I find the late breakout logical, it's the second generation of mites dying, before they manage to lay new eggs.
Yes, I know I shouldn't touch my face too much but I can't help it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie
I have chronic digestion issues so it's really interesting to read that other people think that's related to their skin. It makes sense to me as an unhealthy outside is often a reflection of an unhealthy inside. This is something I'm going to follow with interest.
Yes John, I see what you mean, because the toxicity studies, like the one from Sweden that you linked to, don't mention late breakouts. However, in my treatment of demodectic blepharitis (my meibomian glands were plugged up), I had two very obvious clean-up experiences, on days 23-24, and on days 43-44, and 95% full clean-up in 120 days.
Many other people on this forum report two stages of break-outs, roughly at 3 weeks and 6 weeks. It could be that the egg-laying cycle is the cause, as Maria stated.
My opinion is that there are two stages of break-outs (or clean-ups) because there are two types of malassezia, brevis and folliculorum. Brevis lives more deeply in the skin, inside the sebaceous glands, and folliculorum lives in the hair follicles. I believe that the stage at 43-44 days is where brevis dies off.
There may be a 3rd explanation, where Soolantra acts as a birth control on the males, and makes them unable to mate with females, and then both sexes die without mating, and the two sexes have different life spans. Because demodex cannot be kept alive in vitro, their mating habits are unknown, except by comparison to other arachnids, and there's no definite proof of their maximum life span, but it's generally stated to be several weeks.
My experience leads me to believe malassezia and demodex compete, because after I suppressed malassezia with climbazole and controlled my seb derm, my demodectic blepharitis (dry, red eyes) increased greatly. Then I found that piroctone olamine suppressed demodex and eliminated my demodectic blepharitis. Now I use both active ingredients, once daily.
My causation is the opposite direction of what you might be experiencing, where your reduction of demodex is allowing malassezia to thrive, but it makes sense that the causation would go either direction.
Therefore, you might consider an allergic reaction to malasezzia as a co-existing condition, and use a climbazole based shampoo. Hegor 150 and E45 are available in the EU.
Tom did you use the piroctone in a shampoo form? For the blepharitis? I live in Canada and have only found it in shampoos.