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  • #16
    Jordan's mom

    Well, I am glad that at least one of you understood my God Bless you all especially those that don't derserve it. I do include myself and more than I'd like my son in that underserving group! I understand all you folks skeptisicm but you all have to understand that initially it is difficult not to take it personally. And for the person who still thinks that this is from Dr. Nase, well, I am sorry for you. My son tells me everything! If only one good thing came out of this disease, it's been how close he and I have become. We have been through a lot together and it's sad to me to think that some may think this is unatural or fake. I have told Jordan to not promote Dr. Nase but to simply tell his story if it helps anyone. I am sorry but he is a part of it. And yes, I spent about $6,000 on this trip. I re financed my house just to be able to do it. It has not been easy but I was desparate to help him. I did mention that Renee did his lasers and Dr Nielsen saw him every other day. Anyway, I hope Jordan can keep communicating with you all about rosacea and what other people have found helpfull. I won't post again simply because I don't feel it's right to have to defend who we are, but he is 17 and can make up his own mind about this site and it's supporters. I do not care if you guys support or hate Dr. Nase, however, my son is a whole other story! I wish you all the best. Silvia.

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    • #17
      aye

      Not all kids are embarrased about their parents, espeacialy parents that do whatever humanly possible to help there son.

      Stop acting like you know everyone your not god millie.

      Im sorry that your paranoid but act like an adult.
      beacause i know i can.


      This is jordan by the way.

      Im telling you you guys make me wanna leave this board because of how rude you all are.

      Why even post a topic about the institute if you not gunna belive anyone who types a word about there experience.

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      • #18
        Re: aye

        Originally posted by jmb212121
        Why even post a topic about the institute if you not gunna belive anyone who types a word about there experience.
        I believe that it has been universally voiced here that news on the Institute is welcomed and the contentiousness is due to your wanting to discuss Nase -- and almost exclusively Nase. How you came to go on about what Nase's physical appearance is I still can't for the life of me figure out: how can such a subject as that came into play in your telephone rosacea consultation? That's rhetorical, do not answer that.


        Here's some friendly advice for you: Talk about the institute. Talk about the treatment you got there. Stay on topic. You will be amazed at the happy results when you stay away from the topic of, well, "He who will not be named." Did you know that this is the only board (which I am aware of) that you are actually allowed to say his name? He is that reviled.

        So don't come in here flaming and looking for sympathy when you claim that you already know the score. You've read the debunking site, so you should know better!

        Stay focussed, it's about the Institute, and those nice people at that place who helped you.

        Happiness is a choice.

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        • #19
          Re: aye

          Originally posted by jmb212121
          Not all kids are embarrased about their parents, espeacialy parents that do whatever humanly possible to help there son.

          Stop acting like you know everyone your not god millie.

          Im sorry that your paranoid but act like an adult.
          beacause i know i can.


          This is jordan by the way.

          Im telling you you guys make me wanna leave this board because of how rude you all are.

          Why even post a topic about the institute if you not gunna belive anyone who types a word about there experience.
          Cheerio then....

          So long, take care etc. and thanks for the information.

          Peter

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          • #20
            Classic, Peter!

            LOVE the Office - favorite show!! The look is priceless and says it all!

            Millie

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            • #21
              Yoo Hoo!

              Sylvia and Jordan..... where did you go?

              Hellooooooooooooooooo?

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              • #22
                Hopefully they followed our instructions.
                They are not welcome to post here about anything concerning Nase. Period.

                Best wishes,
                Melissa

                PS I love The Office also.
                It's hysterical!

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                • #23
                  Just out of curiosity, why are they not allowed to post about Nase?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Munch Ausen
                    Just out of curiosity, why are they not allowed to post about Nase?
                    Munch, it's about ONLY giving a treatment report, NOT going on and on about N*se and how wonderful he is supposed to be! (Insert: fingers down the throat emoticon...but coun't find one!!!)

                    Said too much already!

                    Jen
                    Currently trying: Apr 06 Bee Wilder's Candida (natural healing) Diet; May 06 Home made red LED array; Aug 06 ZZ ointment.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Jordan's mom to all who want to read experience with Dr

                      Originally posted by jmb212121
                      Wow! I am amazed at some of the negativity on this site! Peter, I am sorry that you feel that you have to put down my child over his spelling, experience, etc. It's shameful to see a grown adult talk that kind of trash.
                      My son has suffered with rosacea for the past 3 years. As a child he always got what I called rosy cheeks for a variety of reasons. When hot, cold, exercise, etc. After a short time that would go away and his face would return to normal. However, in 9th grade he started to change. His face would get beat red for no apparent reason. Even just sitting at home doing nothing! I won't go into to much detail as I am sure you all are familiar with this progressive disease. I took him to a dermatologist here in Kirkland who put him on clonodine. On his first or second appointment to see him he told us about Dr. Nases book. He highly recommended that we get it and study it from the point of view of someone who has suffered from it and studied it at great lenght. Jordan had about 7 laser treatments here in Seattle. They were very painfull and each time he had one he missed at least 3 days of school. He was desperate for help and the lasers were not working nearly as much as he had hoped. After continued treatments and much, much discussion, he had the ETS surgery. Something that even Dr. Nase does not recommend as an answer. I wish we had had the opportunity to speak with him before we went through this radical procedure. Unfortunally, we did not. I had not yet tried to get a hold of him. I did not think I would ever get to talk to the man that wrote the book that my sons dermatologist recommended. After some time and much dissapointment, we decided to give it a shot. Again, I wish I would of tried sooner. To my suprise we did reach him and spent many hours on the phone talking to him. My son and him started emailing and sending pictures so that he could see what Jordan was going through. He never once said that the only solution was going to Texas. He worked with us to help us find other methods of treatment to help him. After time I felt that maybe the best treatment was to try their lasers. I was sceptical but willing to try anything to help him. To cut this short I will say that I too don't recall the exact name of the lasers used on Jordan. If that make me an idiot, sorry. I know that the first laser coagulated blood vessels under the epidermis. When we left there he was all dotted up. It looked like he had a million freckles. He tolerated the lasers quite well. The other laser, was a blue light laser and for the life of me I can't remember the specifics. He had a total of 7 treatments in a two week period. The staff there was wonderfull. Especially Renee who did the lasers. Dr. Nase kept in touch with us via phone. This may sound funny to some, but like I said, I was willing to try anything to help my child. Since these treatments, Jordan has improved more than I can say. He no longer soaks his face in water half the day or sprays himself off. He has gone back to school, and his life is finally on track. I don't truly know if Dr. Nase is a fake or not. All I can tell you is our own personal experience. I am a true beleiver that if you do evil in this world, God will take care of it in the end so I don't beleive in bashing people. He helped us and has kept in touch with Jordan for quite some time now. Even though Jordan is doing really well I have appreciated his support and just the fact that he has checked back with him. Please, all I ask you people is that you don't bash my son for trying to help other rosacea sufferers. I am sorry that some of you think his posting is Dr. Nase pretending. I guess this is like faith, you either have it or you don't. Anyways, just hope this straightens out some of your suspicions and if not, I guess that's how it goes. Thanks for reading this and God Bless all of you, especially those who don't deserve it!
                      Silvia (Jordan's mom)
                      PS not the best speller in the world either
                      35 year-old male
                      Erythmatotelangiectatic rosacea & Ocular
                      20 + laser treatments.
                      Toleraine Soothing Light Facial Fluid for moisturizer. I don't use a special cleanser. Clonidine daily; klonopin sometimes.
                      BEST and CURRENT TREATMENT I use: Low-Level Red Light Therapy LED array.
                      Please feel free to PM me with your low-level red light therapy (LLRLT) questions. I'm happy to help if I can.

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                      • #26
                        David - did you mean to write anything with that copy of "Jordan's Mom" post about nase and Jordan's treatment?

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                        • #27
                          Here is Peter's reply from the previous page and a good explanation to Munch Ausen's question and now the thread is closed.

                          Have a great weekend everyone!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Jordan's mom to all who want to read experience with Dr

                            Originally posted by Peter
                            Originally posted by jmb212121
                            Wow! I am amazed at some of the negativity on this site! Peter, I am sorry that you feel that you have to put down my child over his spelling, experience, etc. It's shameful to see a grown adult talk that kind of trash.
                            Hello Silvia (and no doubt Jordan)

                            Well you are entitled to your opinion but I can ensure you that the three main rosacea sites, this one, the RSF and RSG have some amazing positive people, doing their utmost in their spare time to help others who suffer from this horrible condition. These members do this for free, in their own private time but Nase does it for a living and Forums like these are rich pickings for him with people desperate for some relief and willing to pay any amount. Ask yourself why Nase was permanently banned from this one (ironically created specifically for him), the RSG and the ESB, the latter he caused their whole rosacea section to be shut down due to his selfish and corruptive antics. Usually the only time this site gets negative is when the subject of Nase crops up especially when new people arrive telling us what a wonderful human being he is.

                            I am sorry that you are offended by some of my "trash" but your son did open up with me by calling me a "hater" and later on made other references to "gay" and how I am not a nice person plus how much money he was going to make in comparison to me. Jordon is no doubt just a young innocent kid but having viewed his site and seen some of the language used, well then he looks very street wise to me. When I replied to Jordon's first post then I did say I wasn't sure it was Nase (I will explain later) and if he was genuine than I congratulated him on his success and referred him to the thread Jen had opened up for reports on treatments at the RTIT. What I didn't want to have to read on this thread was a whole load of tosh on Nase and what a great person he is blah blah because as shown it just irritates some of us and causes trouble. I have seen and been on the receiving end of threats and abuse from Nase himself, some of the characters he impersonates and friends, in his quest to bump up his own prestige, basically to make money in the rosacea world. Your son wrote to me in a PM last night and I'm sure he will not mind me quoting him:

                            "Look for all i know nase could be maken up a **** load of lies to me and just be one hell of actor. But i just dont think thats the case."

                            My answer is yes he is a liar and also good actor.

                            Some of us were tough on your son initially because he said he had read up on Nase and he didn't care about his behaviour. That is the same as saying he is comfortable with someone lying, defrauding, impersonating others, making vicious personal attacks, faking treatment reports, doctoring scientific reports, etc. etc, and he thinks the community as a whole has no right to be protected from a scammer. I hope Jordon will acknowledge that members on here have every right to speak about Nase as they do. By the way what do you think of cancer-fakers especially those who do it to win sympathy? Well Nase did.

                            One of the reasons I was suspicious of Jordon first up was because we have had spoof posters on here before, comprising of either Nase himself or others he persuades on to bump his image up or promote the RTIT. It always seems odd to me when someone joins on here just to praise the clinic and Nase so lavishly, unless someone has asked them to post a review. I don't think anybody doubts Jordon is a genuine person but Nase has a long history on and off the Forums of impersonating others, including the New York physician "J.J.", a patient called "Maria Cappolla", his wife Jennifer, his sister Donna, his neighbour Amanda. He always got caught because he couldn't disguise his writing style or made mistakes and it was always so obviously Nase. If you want the proof I will find all the links for you to read.

                            Even when Nase fakes photos to pretend that his rosacea is in remission he messes up. Look at this and note "redbegone" was Nase himself in yet another guise: Take a look at his pictures and then compare them with those from the court case a year earlier.

                            http://forum.rosaceagroup.org/viewto...t=4516&start=0

                            All he does is lie, including pretending that his rosacea is in remission. It isn't and that is why he will never let anybody see him face to face. Do you think this is fair and don't you think by doing this he is committing fraud? Nase always gave the impression that he works at the RTIT in Texas but doesn't because he works at home in Indiana.

                            At the ESFB board a recruiter posting praise for Nielson's clinic was caught writing under two different names and fake "personalities" (Corvette and Rosie) with changed writing styles to make them look different from Nase. He has learnt that he has to create really colourful characters not to be caught again, so your sons "rapper" style might have people reacting with suspicion but he shouldn't take it personally. It's just that Nase has been such a harmful presence that as I mentioned earlier he has had to be banned for life from the big rosacea groups.

                            Despite what you think he is not "a nice guy tryin to help people" but a scam artist trying to make a living by conning people. I could go on and on especially about RLT which he trashed out of spite and even got friends and supporters on here to tell lies on his behalf.

                            At the end of the day the main thing for you is that Jordon's rosacea is much better but don't expect all of us to agree with you and your son's views on Nase. I am tired and I expect the others who have heard this all before are bored but I wanted to take time for you to understand what has gone before.

                            Regards

                            Peter

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