Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Anyone using ‎Terpinen-4-ol?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Anyone using ‎Terpinen-4-ol?

    Hello all, I have P&P. Went off all grains/sugar three years ago and saw some improvements; I also use azeliac acid, but I still flare several times a month. I ordered ‎Terpinen-4-ol, the active ingredient in TTO, after reading this clinical study.

    I used it on my lashes because I had a definite ocular infestation there; I could see them (as shown in the picture within this study). I actually never realized that's what it was until I'd read this. I diluted it with mineral oil to a 10% Terpinen-4-ol solution, and applied morning and night. Within three days, my lashes/lids were completely clear and the redness was also gone.

    Anyway, I'm thinking of using this on the rest of my face and wondering if anyone has used this (not regular TTO). Without all the irritants of the other ingredients in TTO, I'm just about ready to try it. I ordered the Terpinen-4-ol isolate online for about $12 for 1oz.

  • #2
    Oops, meant 3-4 flares a year, not month.

    Oops, meant 3-4 flares a year, not month.

    Comment


    • #3
      Terpinen-4-ol is the active ingredient in Cliradex lid wipes.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by sanjuan View Post
        Terpinen-4-ol is the active ingredient in Cliradex lid wipes.
        Yes, that's the study I linked in my post.

        Comment


        • #5
          This is my first post here. I've been lurking for a few weeks.

          Please do try it and post your results! I am very curious about this.

          I am currently doing the TTO method that has been discussed a lot here. I recently bought a new bottle of TTO and noticed that its smell was not as strong as the old bottle I had. I was afraid it wouldn't work as well so I did some googling and read a bit about Terpinen and Cineole (not sure I spelled that right) and how the Cineole is what gives TTO that menthol-like quality but it's the Terpinen that does the work.

          Anyway, like you, the Rosacea is affecting one of my eyes but I've found the TTO/carrier oil mix to be too irritating to put near my eyes. I have had very good luck though with Kiss My Face tea tree hand soap. It is ph-balanced and I haven't found it to be any more (or less) irritating than baby shampoo. My next step was to try the Cliradex wipes if the soap didn't help.

          I would gladly give up the TTO in favor of the Terpinen oil if it works though.

          I have it on my cheeks as well. I'm on my third week of the TTO/argan oil method and it's working pretty well. From past experience I know it takes a long time for the skin to heal, so for now it's mostly a waiting game.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Ellen Griswold View Post
            This is my first post here. I've been lurking for a few weeks.

            Please do try it and post your results! I am very curious about this.

            I am currently doing the TTO method that has been discussed a lot here. I recently bought a new bottle of TTO and noticed that its smell was not as strong as the old bottle I had. I was afraid it wouldn't work as well so I did some googling and read a bit about Terpinen and Cineole (not sure I spelled that right) and how the Cineole is what gives TTO that menthol-like quality but it's the Terpinen that does the work.

            Anyway, like you, the Rosacea is affecting one of my eyes but I've found the TTO/carrier oil mix to be too irritating to put near my eyes. I have had very good luck though with Kiss My Face tea tree hand soap. It is ph-balanced and I haven't found it to be any more (or less) irritating than baby shampoo. My next step was to try the Cliradex wipes if the soap didn't help.

            I would gladly give up the TTO in favor of the Terpinen oil if it works though.

            I have it on my cheeks as well. I'm on my third week of the TTO/argan oil method and it's working pretty well. From past experience I know it takes a long time for the skin to heal, so for now it's mostly a waiting game.
            I've been using cliradex wipes on my eyes for a few weeks. I've made sure to be consistent and apply every night.

            After 1 week I had a reduction in the gritty feeling like my eyelids had sand underneath them. I also had less crusty stuff build up over night. Finally, the white's of my eyes are slowly returning back to normal from being extremely bloodshot.

            I had the same idea as OP and decided to start testing cliradex on a spot on my face. I'm only 3 days in, but so far no changes. To be clear, the spot I'm testing isn't normally prone to P&P's. It's a defined area of redness next to my nose that's an inch long and half an inch wide. It never responded to antifungals.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by sanjuan View Post
              I had the same idea as OP and decided to start testing cliradex on a spot on my face. I'm only 3 days in, but so far no changes. To be clear, the spot I'm testing isn't normally prone to P&P's. It's a defined area of redness next to my nose that's an inch long and half an inch wide. It never responded to antifungals.
              Thanks Sanjuan for your post. I was hoping someone had tried this. Please update us with your progress. Many thanks

              Comment


              • #8
                Waiting for a flare...

                Originally posted by Ellen Griswold View Post
                Please do try it and post your results! I am very curious about this.
                Hi Ellen, thanks for your reply. How's your progress with TTO going? I wish my skin could tolerate it.

                I still haven't used the terpinen on my face because I'm waiting for a flare. I don't want to cause one with die-off. I will post if I do though.

                I have to admit that I also have a batch of oral ivermectin that I ordered, but since this is not the RX board, I won't go into that except to say that I haven't decided which to try next time I flare.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by kimber View Post
                  Hi Ellen, thanks for your reply. How's your progress with TTO going? I wish my skin could tolerate it.

                  I still haven't used the terpinen on my face because I'm waiting for a flare. I don't want to cause one with die-off. I will post if I do though.

                  I have to admit that I also have a batch of oral ivermectin that I ordered, but since this is not the RX board, I won't go into that except to say that I haven't decided which to try next time I flare.
                  Thanks for asking! I think the TTO thing is going pretty well. Progress is slow, so sometimes I'm not too sure. I'm trying to view the progress in terms of weeks rather than days. My left cheek is mostly clear, my right cheek still has quite a few red spots and redness in general, but it doesn't seem "active" (no new P&Ps). This flare has been a weird one for me to get a handle on. I've had rosacea for 4+ years, but all my past flares (except the first the one) were directly related to eating wheat. The connection was so simple and obvious, I had no clue how lucky I was in that regard. This flare started in early January and I don't know what caused it and it's the first flare I've had with eye involvement. Luckily, since I've been using the kiss my face TTO soap, my eye is much, much better. The gritty feeling is gone, although it's still a bit red and some days by evening it's irritated and tired feeling.

                  I've also cleaned up my diet and added some omega 3 and probiotic supplements. It's hard for me to tell if that's made any difference though. I think the TTO is the most beneficial.

                  Where did you get your terpinen oil? I googled, but most things that popped up were for TTO and the reference was just to the amount of terpinen in it. If I can find some I think I'd give it a go and could report back. Hopefully you won't have a flare and won't need it yourself! It's nice you've got a back up with the Ivermectin, I had never heard of it.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sanjuan View Post
                    I've been using cliradex wipes on my eyes for a few weeks. I've made sure to be consistent and apply every night.

                    After 1 week I had a reduction in the gritty feeling like my eyelids had sand underneath them. I also had less crusty stuff build up over night. Finally, the white's of my eyes are slowly returning back to normal from being extremely bloodshot.
                    Sanjuan - have you had flares with your eyes before? This is my first with eye involvement and am curious how long they last. If the soap I am using doesn't clear my eye completely within the next month I think I will try the Cliradex wipes. I'm not sure how much TTO is in the soap I'm using. I'm a little nervous it's just enough to knock back the mites, but not enough to fully eradicate them.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ellen Griswold View Post
                      Sanjuan - have you had flares with your eyes before? This is my first with eye involvement and am curious how long they last. If the soap I am using doesn't clear my eye completely within the next month I think I will try the Cliradex wipes. I'm not sure how much TTO is in the soap I'm using. I'm a little nervous it's just enough to knock back the mites, but not enough to fully eradicate them.
                      I've tried looking up the TTO percentage for popular shampoos and cleansers. I haven't had much success. I found it was easier to just mix some TTO in a shot glass with a measured amount of my current products.

                      I tried 10% TTO wash last night. It was ok for my head and upper torso, but my face was too sensitive. Way too much of that menthol feeling. I'm sticking with 5% for now. Picking up my soolantra RX tomorrow.

                      I don't have the links at hand right now, but demodex's susceptibility to Terpinen-4-ol is much higher than to straight TTO. In other words, a little bit of Terpinen-4-ol goes a long way. The study I'm thinking of has charts that show the in vitro survival time is just a matter of minutes at certain Terpinen-4-ol concentrations. In theory that would make cliradex wipes more potent than TTO products. As always, the downside is that the wipes are slightly expensive for what you get.

                      I hadn't really noticed the flares with my eyes before, but it's all starting to come together now. Last year I had my optometrist mention that I should use baby shampoo on my eye lids to get rid of the crustiness. I don't think the baby shampoo would help, but I'll give him credit that he noticed there was an issue. This winter has been particularly bad with the dry eye feeling. It would get to the point where I was constantly squinting because I could barely open my eyes. That caused me to look into it further and here I am. I found that, without Cliradex, I didn't get relief for more than a few hours after using a gentle cleanser on my lids.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I am also using cliradex wipes for perhaps
                        3 weeks at a snail pace of 3 times a week.
                        I can not tolerate TTO shampoo so I decided
                        To try this product on my eyes as slowly as
                        Possible. My skin seems to do best when I
                        Alternate days of using one product then the
                        Next day only distilled water. Anyway, the
                        Cliradex wipes ( amazon) work extremely
                        Well. The first few times I felt the crawling
                        Sensations after using them. Demodex
                        Dying or fungus? Don't know. After about
                        A week, I now apply to eyebrows as well.
                        Really scrub it in. Again, crawling first few
                        Times. Both eyes and brows are less red
                        And crusty and peeling. Eventually I will
                        Try on skin patch. As of now, I'm hopeful
                        That these will be continuous tool in my
                        Toolbox-- reliable. Not a cure but effective.
                        This product stings and it states this on the
                        Enclosure information. Keep eyes closed for
                        About a minute or so after. Another benefit
                        I find is my eyelids and brows are very soft
                        Like I treated them with high end moisturizer.
                        Birdie

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ellen Griswold View Post
                          I've also cleaned up my diet and added some omega 3 and probiotic supplements. It's hard for me to tell if that's made any difference though. I think the TTO is the most beneficial.

                          Where did you get your terpinen oil? I googled, but most things that popped up were for TTO and the reference was just to the amount of terpinen in it. If I can find some I think I'd give it a go and could report back. Hopefully you won't have a flare and won't need it yourself! It's nice you've got a back up with the Ivermectin, I had never heard of it.
                          Hi Ellen, Glad to hear the TTO seems to be working, albeit slowly. So you're having problems discerning what's caused this long-lasting flare from January? When did you add the omega-3? I can't tolerate any oil-based supplements, and that took me a long time to figure out. My most recent was D3 (I love it in the tablet form but didn't think about the softgel giving me problems--what a flare that was!)

                          I got the terpinen-4-ol from Sun Pure Botanicals; they also have a store on eBay. Here's a link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1909989...lpid=82&chn=ps

                          Let me know how it goes. It works great around my eyes at a low percentage, and I decided to mix a little with a shea butter base (that's what I use to moisturize anyway) to use on my face: I melt the shea butter and add the terp, let it sit, and apply as my moisturizer, although it's under 5%, but based on that clinical study I read, solutions as low as 1% should work...

                          BTW: we seem to share a trigger: wheat, sugar, and coffee are my big triggers.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sanjuan View Post
                            I don't have the links at hand right now, but demodex's susceptibility to Terpinen-4-ol is much higher than to straight TTO. In other words, a little bit of Terpinen-4-ol goes a long way. The study I'm thinking of has charts that show the in vitro survival time is just a matter of minutes at certain Terpinen-4-ol concentrations. In theory that would make cliradex wipes more potent than TTO products. As always, the downside is that the wipes are slightly expensive for what you get.
                            Hi Sanjuan, I think that's the same chart in the study I linked as the first post of this thread.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kimber View Post
                              Hi Sanjuan, I think that's the same chart in the study I linked as the first post of this thread.
                              Oops, yes it is.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X