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  • #91
    I've tried it with no helping.

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    • #92
      What about some kind of nutritional deficiency/imbalance?

      One of the posters here - Sarahjohn (don't know if you're still there) - experienced the flakes after a while being on antibiotics. (Same with me, btw). Well, antibiotics can impair the uptake of various vitamins and minerals.

      Significantly, antibiotics bind zinc. And zinc is involved in inhibiting kallikrein (which, in turn, plays a key part in breaking down the skin cells on the outer layer of the skin, which I think could be leading to the flakes). So, you know, maybe the antibiotics are leading to a lack of zinc in the skin.

      For those not on antibiotics, maybe they have a deficiency because of something else.

      The same thing as with zinc goes for other things. Riboflavin seems also to be affected by antibiotics. And it seems that riboflavin deficiency can lead to excessive oiliness. So, you know, maybe.... And again, others who aren't on antibiotics might have other reasons for deficiency.

      Has anybody tried this line of attack?
      Last edited by TheMediumDog; 29 August 2009, 10:13 AM.

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      • #93
        For everybody to know.
        By surprise i tried "salicylic vaseline 2 %" bought over the counter at the pharmacy store and has since then (four weeks) been free from flakes.

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        • #94
          Has anything worked for you TheMediumDog?

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          • #95
            Nope. You?

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            • #96
              Nope

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Monte View Post
                I may have the same thing and have been to many derms who are not sure what it is......it is all over my beard, cheeks and temples....it is like fine white sand coming out of my pores...it does have a waxy appearance like SebDerm but all Sebderm meds haven't made a dent....I can remove the flakes by exfoliating but then I get nasty flare and more flakes follow....does anyone relate to this?

                One derm said the exact same thing about scales following inflammation.

                I have EXACTLY what you have and I thought I was the only one who had this crap. I've been suffering from this ever since I was 18. I was joking around with a relative and they thought it was funny to spray me with RAID insect killer and it got on my face. I quickly rinsed it off but it was too late b/c the next day my face was fill of hives that lasted about 8 months! (It was a very ugly period in my life and I got no play from the ladies, prior to that I was never without a gf.) When it cleared I was left with oily skin and flakes/crusting but not too bad. I've always had slightly oily skin since age 13. My skin got pregressively worst in my mid 20's and it started to get inflamed and burn. I turned into a hermit. People I worked with said how ugly I was (college kids). I couldn't even get girls to speak to me. I was a hot lonely mess, I took a job delivering newspapers to avoid people but security gurads still managed to make jokes on how I looked. That whole time I tried every product on the market and visited many derms which were the biggest waste of money I ever spent b/c I had no insurance. Suicidal thoughts plagued me but I stayed strong. I got on my knees and prayed to God with tears pouring out to please rid me of this horrible skin condition. Shortly after that I got strep throat and went to emergancy where they gave me a shot and antibiotics. I also tried Neutrogena Deep clean and miraculously my condition completely cleared! Next thing you know people started commenting on how nice looking I was. My confidence built back up and I started dating and eventually got engaged. I even managed to get a good job and was promoted to management. I bought a beautiful house had parties. My life did a 180 and I was the happiest I had ever been in my life. I had ONE fear....SD coming back and turning back into a freak and ruining my life. I figured if it did I would just commit suicide b/c I could not go through that again. The SD came back with vengance and totally transformed my once handsome face back into a crusty greasy red inflamed pimply mess all over again. It was like white sand was embedded in my pores and I had to scrub like hell to get them out wheich left huge ugly pores and red inflamed skin. My skin even got thick and made it look like my nose got bigger, horrible to say the least. My ex fiance started calling me a freak, ugly, stopped having sex with me and said she wasn't attracted to me. The friend I thought I had at work stopped talking to me and I ended up losing my job, had to sell the house and move back with a relative. I lost everything and was back to square one, an ugly lonely hermit, this time unemployed for almost 3 years with absolutely no life. I have an obsession with my skin that has me thinking about it 24/7. I was also just diagnosed with Glacoma in one eye to make things worst. Suicidal thoughts plague my mind. People have commented and said I look "much older" than my age which is only 34 thanks to this dieasese makes look like a crusty dude. Btw, I was once nicknamed Crusty by an former coworker way back. I think I've lost hope but I'm not brave enough to take my life. I signed up fro school again but fear total rejection from college classmates. I live in a state of liminality now. Sorry for the long story but this disease has ruined my life and turned a once handsome popular man into a loser freak show. It all sounds pretty hilarious but true. Life is a b*tch!
                -Hopeless

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                • #98
                  Sorry to bring back an old thread but I thought I'd update. I have been having less flakey - don't get me wrong STILL flakey bur much less and softer - skin as a result of washing my face with distilled water. They come in these big jugs real cheap too like $1.40 a bottle which lasts a week usually. I think you guys should give it a try. Downside your skin will feel not clean, kinda slippery but in actuality it is CLEANER! All that we feel with regular water is the calcium build up. Anyways it has made a positive difference and I first thought of it as a result of my London trip - the water was much softer and I noticed less flaking. The distilled water is soft as well, hence not drying the skin out or leaving a residue.

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                  • #99
                    Dear Hopeless and Others

                    Dear Hopeless,

                    I will start with you since your the last post on this extremely informative thread. Hang in there friend. Your the same guy through the ups and downs of your skin. Find some people that know this.

                    As for the flakes, the skin barrier, the oil... man, reading this has been crazy for me. I have found my people! Where have you guys been...!!! I just started a new thread about the flakes but I guess that was not necessary as this is exactly what I was looking for. Some of your thoughts on this process I have shared. Like the flakes acting as a "protective layer" or the thought of letting them build up to let them do there thing. I noticed nobody commented on the persons post who said they double washed there face at night. They said that was really helping and I thought this was indicative of what is going on... it seems that we produce so much oil that what we are doing when we wash our face is just removing the dead skin/oil and then not getting to where "normal" people wash to maintain there normality. Some thoughts:

                    1.) The mysterious Dr. S treatment in Ukraine (maybe some heard of this) involves intense scrubbing of the face...I took note of this.... Say what you want about this but the pictures he has posted say a lot. I know, I know... this is not people with the flake but... I feel that our pores are clogged... and that deep down there is something that needs to be reset. I have always been so damn sensitive with my skin, for years, and I mean sensitive like when rubbing or washing... maybe I should be a bit firmer while washing, or try the double wash. Something to think about. You all know that what our gut is telling us is to scrub!!! IF only we could!!!

                    2.) Raw honey is doing well for me... it has an extremely great exfoliating factor to it that is removing so much flake without being too harsh. Instead of just putting it on for a few hours I sleep in it. If you guys on here are like me the idea of putting something on for just a few hours does not sit well with the flakes. Raw honey mixed with a very small amount of water in a bowl, then rubbed on.... does great so far... the results are still coming for me and I am about a month in... every other night.

                    3.) Cutting out all other products. Less is more... not doing creams, lotions, or sunscreen at the moment, it is winter here for me though... when summer comes I will have to see about the no sunscreen. Doing no creams or lotions or sunscreen would be impossible without the raw honey.... my skin freaks out when nothing is done to it... it starts to feel like the skin is absolutely at war with moisture/dryness... if this makes any sense, which it doesn't, because our goddamn skin doesn't make any sense.

                    Anyway, WOW! Here it is... the thread I was always looking for!

                    The next thing I am interested in is adding the right vitamin/supplement into my routine... vitamin D possibly, or Zinc.... sleeping and feeling much more balanced with melatonin at night by the way... always skeptical of "healing properties" of this type of thing but make no mistake, my dreams are intense, my sleep is solid... and I get tired at night.... it's been great.... Also, last thing, Accutane seems like it might would do some good for us flakers.... want to hear about that from you guys!

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                    • Flake Free 2010... are you with me!

                      Snuff- So you really think this makes a difference? I'll look into it sometime soon....

                      Let's make 2010 flake free!

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                      • Help me

                        Originally posted by solutionquest View Post
                        Snuff- So you really think this makes a difference? I'll look into it sometime soon....

                        Let's make 2010 flake free!
                        Wow. I thought I was the only one. I thought for a while I had seb derm with my rosacea, but from what you guys are saying I feel my symptoms are very similar to yours. I know this is somewhat of an old thread but I am curious for those of you that have not been active for the last couple of years have found a solution or a treatment for this condition. I have facial dandruff with underlying rosacea ONLY on my nose, and the scaling, skin barrier dysfunction discussion you guys have discussed here is precisely whats happening to me. I am currently taking 20 mg/day oral isotretinoin because my nose is very oily and I feel that has a lot to do with it. Also an anti-inflammatory. I am 21 years old and I really hope someone responds to my post. Thank you

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                        • Originally posted by emanella View Post
                          Wow. I thought I was the only one. I thought for a while I had seb derm with my rosacea, but from what you guys are saying I feel my symptoms are very similar to yours. I know this is somewhat of an old thread but I am curious for those of you that have not been active for the last couple of years have found a solution or a treatment for this condition. I have facial dandruff with underlying rosacea ONLY on my nose, and the scaling, skin barrier dysfunction discussion you guys have discussed here is precisely whats happening to me. I am currently taking 20 mg/day oral isotretinoin because my nose is very oily and I feel that has a lot to do with it. Also an anti-inflammatory. I am 21 years old and I really hope someone responds to my post. Thank you
                          Hi there. Not sure if you'll see this but I too have been reading through this thread and I'm happy to actually find people who have or had the same skin problems I have.

                          I'm not sure if this is actually seb derm. I'm feeling like it isn't because the symptoms don't quite match up. Have you ever taken antibiotics in your life? That seems to be a link. For me, I developed bad acne a couple of years ago, so then I went on a 6 month course of topical creams (Retin-A) and antibiotics. After the 6 month course my skin was horribly red and dried out, and I immediately developed the yellow build-up problem. I have it on my scalp as well, which means it has to be some sort of internal issue, as I've never used any medicated products or anything on my scalp.

                          Since then, my skin has healed a ton, but the build-up hasn't changed, it keeps coming. I've spent the last 9 months not washing my face at all, and the redness on my face is almost completely gone, my complexion is nice, and my acne is more mild than ever, but I keep getting the build-up and I have to scrub it off with my fingers every week or two, which is really irritating to my face. Also, my pores are very clogged and visible looking. I have rosacea-like symptoms on my cheeks and nose, those areas can get red from the sun, cold weather, and stress. But I have no rosacea symptoms on my jawline or forehead, but I still get build-up in those areas.

                          The reason I asked about antibiotics is cause I've looked into this and found heaps of evidence that antibiotics destroying all the bacteria in your gut can leave you open to fungus infections that can cause rosacea, seb derm, and all sorts of skin problems. Stress can amplify this a lot as well, so if you go on antibiotics and you're stressed out about your skin at the same time, it can leave you totally compromised. I've determined that I most likely have had candida overgrowth ever since my antibiotics course, which could be responsible for these skin problems, but I don't know. I've only just started to treat the candida a couple of days ago.
                          Last edited by MarshallB3; 4 October 2013, 04:22 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by MarshallB3 View Post
                            Since then, my skin has healed a ton, but the build-up hasn't changed, it keeps coming.
                            This sounds like 'biofilm'. If you search on the forum you can see the various ways of getting rid of it.

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                            • I think this...

                              I think this is the original thread I read so many years ago now... where I thought.... ok, yes, this is what I am talking about.... here are the people talking about the problem I have....

                              I didn't go back and read the thread just the new entries.

                              I'll say this... the more I look around these days the more I see people with my problem...


                              Anyway, just scanning over the site now and saw this....

                              SQ

                              p.s. And to anyone out there with this problem let me say good luck and treat your face gently.

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                              • Originally posted by Sally View Post
                                This sounds like 'biofilm'. If you search on the forum you can see the various ways of getting rid of it.
                                Thank you that helped, so it sounds like I was right to assume that it's a yeast/candida issue and that it's roots are internal

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