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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rubydo1 View Post
    That?s good I can?t use heat on mine at all. Cold helps .
    How is your ocular rosacea doing now? Do you think that the oral Ivermectin helped?

    The Hypochlorous Acid (HOCL) Face spray could be a good cleanser for you to use. It's the same chemical produced by human white cells. Its non-irritating, non-allergenic and soothing to skin. HOCL breaks up bio-film. HOCL is also highly effective at killing bacteria, mold/fungus and viruses. HOCL killed 99.9% of the 23 strains of bacteria they tested it on. It kills molds and fungus and can help Seb-D. HOCL can kill COVID in 30 seconds as well as Norovirus. Even better, most brands of HOCL are not expensive. Just look for one with at least 0.01% to 0.02% HOCL. Most of the better brands have 0.02% HOCL in water with a tiny amount of salt as a preservative. That is all it takes to be super effective.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ElaineA View Post
      How is your ocular rosacea doing now? Do you think that the oral Ivermectin helped?

      The Hypochlorous Acid (HOCL) Face spray could be a good cleanser for you to use. It's the same chemical produced by human white cells. Its non-irritating, non-allergenic and soothing to skin. HOCL breaks up bio-film. HOCL is also highly effective at killing bacteria, mold/fungus and viruses. HOCL killed 99.9% of the 23 strains of bacteria they tested it on. It kills molds and fungus and can help Seb-D. HOCL can kill COVID in 30 seconds as well as Norovirus. Even better, most brands of HOCL are not expensive. Just look for one with at least 0.01% to 0.02% HOCL. Most of the better brands have 0.02% HOCL in water with a tiny amount of salt as a preservative. That is all it takes to be super effective.
      Hi Elaine

      Are you able to recommend any brands of this?

      Thanks

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ElaineA View Post
        How is your ocular rosacea doing now? Do you think that the oral Ivermectin helped?

        The Hypochlorous Acid (HOCL) Face spray could be a good cleanser for you to use. It's the same chemical produced by human white cells. Its non-irritating, non-allergenic and soothing to skin. HOCL breaks up bio-film. HOCL is also highly effective at killing bacteria, mold/fungus and viruses. HOCL killed 99.9% of the 23 strains of bacteria they tested it on. It kills molds and fungus and can help Seb-D. HOCL can kill COVID in 30 seconds as well as Norovirus. Even better, most brands of HOCL are not expensive. Just look for one with at least 0.01% to 0.02% HOCL. Most of the better brands have 0.02% HOCL in water with a tiny amount of salt as a preservative. That is all it takes to be super effective.
        Don?t think it?s made a lot of difference to be honest . I took three lots. I have very dry skin near eyes aswell. Where do you get the spray from ? And how do you use it as a cleanser ?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by antwantsclear View Post
          Hi Elaine

          Are you able to recommend any brands of this?

          Thanks
          Yes! I have used 2 different brands both excellent. And I am about to try a 3rd brand when my current bottle is empty. I've bought all 3 from Amazon US

          Here's the 2 that I have tried - both are excellent!
          1. Heyedrate Lid and Lash cleanser (0.015% concentration). Good but more expensive. Marketed by husband and wife team of Opthalmologists who use it themselves. They also use the profits from the sale to sponsor eye care missions to 3rd world countries to help the poor with eye treatment. It is more expensive though. $19.97 per 1 oz or $34.97 for 2 oz bottle.

          https://www.amazon.com/Blepharitis-D...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==


          2. Occusoft Hypochlor - (0.02%) - This is what I am currently using. Works great. $19.97 per 2 oz bottle.

          https://www.amazon.com/OCuSOFT-Hypoc...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==


          About to try:
          3. BrioTech - (0.02% concentration) - This is the least expensive at $6.95 per 2 oz or $11.95 per 4 oz bottle or $14.95 per 8 oz bottle. Company seems reputable based on their website and highly positive reviews. This is the brand that Tattoo Artists and Piercers use and recommend to their clients to heal cleanly. They also sell it in larger sizes for cleaning/sanitizing. As a cleanser and sanitizer it is both extremely effective and extremely green for manufacture and usage. One study showed that HOCL killed 99.9% of 23 different strains of bacteria. It is also highly effective against mold and fungus. It kills viruses like norovirus and COVID. HOCL is used to disinfect hospital operating rooms, ICU rooms, medical and dental offices.

          https://www.amazon.com/BRIOTECH-Topi...dDbGljaz10cnVl

          There are some other options as well. But I don't know anything about the others.

          Storage of HOCL is important. It needs to stay out of direct sunlight and at room temperature. An opened bottle stays fresh for about 4 months. An unopened bottle can stay fresh for 1-2 years if stored properly. If you use about 1-2 oz per month, the biggest bottle you should have open at one time is 4 to 8 oz. BrioTech says to shake the bottle lightly before use.

          HOCL is also a potent and very safe sanitizer. Its also very green and safe on all surfaces. It has zero safety hazards listed.
          Last edited by ElaineA; 27 February 2021, 06:32 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Rubydo1 View Post
            Don?t think it?s made a lot of difference to be honest . I took three lots. I have very dry skin near eyes aswell. Where do you get the spray from ? And how do you use it as a cleanser ?
            Here's the 2 opthalmologists from the Heyedrate brand, explaining 2 different ways to use the Heydrate Lid and Lash cleansing spray. They recommend using their tea tree oil based bar soap to wash your face first. Just use whatever cleanser works for you first. Pat skin dry with a clean towel. Then you can either spray the HOCL directly onto your face and massage it in with your fingers - then just let your skin dry naturally with the HOCL on it. I spray it on my entire clean dry face, massage in with clean fingers and let dry. OR, you can spray it onto a cotton round and apply to your skin that way. Just let it dry. Do not wipe off the HOCL. It only takes maybe 2 minutes to dry.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACj9EOm3MTQ

            I put the links to Amazon US in the response to Ants question. But those brands are not available in the UK. I found one for you that is available on Amazon UK. Its EU approved. It is HOCL based sanitizer. Definitely make sure the product is HOCL based. They make the HOCL from just salt and water by passing an electrode through salt water. The electrode breaks the chloride bond on the salt. The chloride atom rebonds with one hydrogen and one oxygen atom to create HOCL. There are some other antiseptic sprays with other ingredients - one I saw was just saline solution. Its not the same.

            https://www.amazon.co.uk/NatraSan-Fi...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

            Storage of HOCL is important. It needs to stay out of direct sunlight and at room temperature. An opened bottle stays fresh for about 4 months. An unopened bottle can stay fresh for 1-2 years if stored properly. If you use about 1-2 oz per month, the biggest bottle you should have open at one time is 4 to 8 oz. BrioTech says to shake the bottle lightly before use.

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            • #21
              Update.

              Just to let you know for those that take LDN, I have been advised by the private chemist who supply my LDN, that it is perfectly okay to have the covid vaccine (UK) whilst taking LDN.
              SUFFER FROM NEUROPATHIC ROSACEA & OCULAR ROSACEA SINCE 2002.


              *Vit D3,Theratears Omega 3.



              *LDN since October 2018.

              *REN skincare range. TARTE cosmetics.

              *Tried Clonidine, Moxonidine & Atenolol (None being taken at present ).

              *Yearly IPL treatments until 2009.

              * RLT Journey!" (Sept 09) **Using Britebox Revive..(Stopped ).



              History of Hyperthyroidism (Graves) Lichen Planus (oral)
              PROUD TO BE DIFFERENT






              .

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ElaineA View Post
                Yes! I have used 2 different brands both excellent. And I am about to try a 3rd brand when my current bottle is empty. I've bought all 3 from Amazon US

                Here's the 2 that I have tried - both are excellent!
                1. Heyedrate Lid and Lash cleanser (0.015% concentration). Good but more expensive. Marketed by husband and wife team of Opthalmologists who use it themselves. They also use the profits from the sale to sponsor eye care missions to 3rd world countries to help the poor with eye treatment. It is more expensive though. $19.97 per 1 oz or $34.97 for 2 oz bottle.

                https://www.amazon.com/Blepharitis-D...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==


                2. Occusoft Hypochlor - (0.02%) - This is what I am currently using. Works great. $19.97 per 2 oz bottle.

                https://www.amazon.com/OCuSOFT-Hypoc...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==


                About to try:
                3. BrioTech - (0.02% concentration) - This is the least expensive at $6.95 per 2 oz or $11.95 per 4 oz bottle or $14.95 per 8 oz bottle. Company seems reputable based on their website and highly positive reviews. This is the brand that Tattoo Artists and Piercers use and recommend to their clients to heal cleanly. They also sell it in larger sizes for cleaning/sanitizing. As a cleanser and sanitizer it is both extremely effective and extremely green for manufacture and usage. One study showed that HOCL killed 99.9% of 23 different strains of bacteria. It is also highly effective against mold and fungus. It kills viruses like norovirus and COVID. HOCL is used to disinfect hospital operating rooms, ICU rooms, medical and dental offices.

                https://www.amazon.com/BRIOTECH-Topi...dDbGljaz10cnVl

                There are some other options as well. But I don't know anything about the others.

                Storage of HOCL is important. It needs to stay out of direct sunlight and at room temperature. An opened bottle stays fresh for about 4 months. An unopened bottle can stay fresh for 1-2 years if stored properly. If you use about 1-2 oz per month, the biggest bottle you should have open at one time is 4 to 8 oz. BrioTech says to shake the bottle lightly before use.

                HOCL is also a potent and very safe sanitizer. Its also very green and safe on all surfaces. It has zero safety hazards listed.
                Right will look in the UK cant seem to find any and we can’t buy from amazon US at the moment
                Last edited by Rubydo1; 2 March 2021, 05:55 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Rubydo1 View Post
                  Right will look in the UK cant seem to find any and we can?t buy from amazon US at the moment
                  Here's a UK brand on Amazon UK - looks like there are some other brands in the UK as well:


                  NatraSan Antiseptic Spray ? Hypochlorous Medical-Grade Skin and Surface Sanitiser, Disinfectant ? Alcohol-Free, for Hands, Skin, Tattoo & Piercings, Surfaces, Baby Items & More

                  100 ml bottle (L7.88) on Amazon UK here:

                  https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B012OBGM...d_asin_0_title

                  250 ml bottle (L9.88 ) on Amazon UK here:

                  https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B012O6V3..._td_asin_1_img

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ElaineA View Post
                    Here's a UK brand on Amazon UK - looks like there are some other brands in the UK as well:


                    NatraSan Antiseptic Spray ? Hypochlorous Medical-Grade Skin and Surface Sanitiser, Disinfectant ? Alcohol-Free, for Hands, Skin, Tattoo & Piercings, Surfaces, Baby Items & More

                    100 ml bottle (L7.88) on Amazon UK here:

                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B012OBGM...d_asin_0_title

                    250 ml bottle (L9.88 ) on Amazon UK here:

                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B012O6V3..._td_asin_1_img
                    Yeah I saw those but don?t say it?s safe for eye area .

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Judworth View Post
                      I am doing really well on 1.5 mg of LDN and rarely flush at all nowadays; generally I react to every medication I take herbal or prescribed, I just seem to absorb things really well (however, that in turn makes my body & skin reactive).

                      Question, does anyone who has had the UK covid vaccine know how it affects rosacea?

                      I appreciate that most will say we have to take a leap of faith, but I don't think I could cope with the return of nerve pain and flushing!


                      Thanks

                      J
                      I had the Oxford 2 days ago, sore arm and slight headache, absolutely no flushing, feel fine.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rubydo1 View Post
                        Yeah I saw those but don?t say it?s safe for eye area .
                        Manufacturer's web site is here:

                        https://natrasanuk.com/directions-for-use/

                        https://natrasanuk.com/2016/09/05/what-is-hypochlorous/

                        NatraSan is 0.015% Hypochlorous Acid. The Amazon UK NatraSan product question answers, including one that says that it is from the manufacturer, say is safe enough to use both around the eyes and as an emergency eye wash. If you want to verify this directly with the manufacturer to make sure, their contact information is here:

                        https://natrasanuk.com/contact/

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Countrygirl View Post
                          I had the Oxford 2 days ago, sore arm and slight headache, absolutely no flushing, feel fine.
                          Thank you! Glad all is well!

                          J
                          SUFFER FROM NEUROPATHIC ROSACEA & OCULAR ROSACEA SINCE 2002.


                          *Vit D3,Theratears Omega 3.



                          *LDN since October 2018.

                          *REN skincare range. TARTE cosmetics.

                          *Tried Clonidine, Moxonidine & Atenolol (None being taken at present ).

                          *Yearly IPL treatments until 2009.

                          * RLT Journey!" (Sept 09) **Using Britebox Revive..(Stopped ).



                          History of Hyperthyroidism (Graves) Lichen Planus (oral)
                          PROUD TO BE DIFFERENT






                          .

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ElaineA View Post
                            Manufacturer's web site is here:

                            https://natrasanuk.com/directions-for-use/

                            https://natrasanuk.com/2016/09/05/what-is-hypochlorous/

                            NatraSan is 0.015% Hypochlorous Acid. The Amazon UK NatraSan product question answers, including one that says that it is from the manufacturer, say is safe enough to use both around the eyes and as an emergency eye wash. If you want to verify this directly with the manufacturer to make sure, their contact information is here:

                            https://natrasanuk.com/contact/
                            Oh right thanks

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                            • #29
                              Moderna COVID vaccine

                              Had my second dose of the Moderna 9 March 2021. About a week after, rosacea MUCH worse plus I developed a new skin condition--periorifacial dermatitis, which is linked to rosacea. The derm I went to told me that so many people are coming in with worsening rosacea and/or periorifacial dermatitis. It is now 13 June 2021 and I am slightly better but only slightly. Derm told me that the periorifacial dermatitis is for life. So far I have not had a single day without breakouts. I think I will be wearing mask the rest of my life to hide it because my case is rather disfiguring.

                              On another note, the Moderna also brought back my shingles, which had been under control since I received the shingles vaccine several years ago. Again, the doctor told me that so many people have experienced a resurgence of shingles or they developed a new case after the Moderna. My eye doctor told me that it caused one of his patients to require emergency eye surgery.

                              I have not seen any reports on this in the media but I'm one person and have had three doctors tell me that they are seeing a lot of patients with these side effects.

                              I'd have NEVER taken the Moderna had I known what it would put me through. I'd have waited until I could get J&J. I'm wary of RMRNA vaccines.

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