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    Hello

    Although I've been posting a while I have never put up a picture of myself. I have attached one to see if it works. It shows my cheek during one of my flairs. Hope it works [img[/img]

  • #2
    Ohh thats rather big, oh well at least it worked. I'm gonna try to upload some more.



    This attractive one shos how a small pap can really ruin my day.



    This shows me 5 days post IPL after a seb derm flair. Nice



    A flush post IPL mixed in with seb derm.

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    • #3
      Thanks for sharing your pics.

      can I just ask how you know you have seb derm? I thought seb derm skin was flaky but yours doesn't seem to be.
      Female, age 42. Using Zia Fresh Cleansing Gel, emu oil and ZZ cream.

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      • #4
        Hi Phlika29,

        Thank you for posting your pictures. It's good to see the different "faces" of rosacea. I was wondering if you had perioral derm and then read that you have seb derm. I know that can affect the skin creases. It's a nasty combo to have. There are other folks on the forum that have both Seborrheic Dermatitis and Rosacea, you can check out what they've done for it and what works, or doesn't. The frustrating thing with these skin conditions is that what works for one may not for another. And our facial skin can be so tender.

        Best of luck!
        Twickle Purple

        Happiness is a choice.

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        • #5
          There is some redness and oiliness in the eye brow area. Is it itchy? I have the same thing, its seems that u have seb derm too. But mild, I believe a good diet can take care of it? How is your diet?
          Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up again..

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          • #6
            well I've just come back from seeing my laser Dr and he confirmed that the redness on the cheeks was a seb derm flair and the area around my mouth was a herpes outbreak. Both of these were brought on by an IPL treament. Normally I have no real evidence of seb derm and have never had any cold sores but there you go.

            Diet is healthy if not a stictly a rosacea diet, I avoid dairy, chocoalte and never eat tomatoes, strawberries etc. To be honest I don't remember my eyebrows, I was more distracted by my checks! and once again although my skin is on the dry side I don't normally display any evidence of seb derm.

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            • #7
              Thanks for sharing your pics Sarah. Are your cheeks normally that colour or was it just post IPL? How scary that you had a Herpes outbreak after treatment. I wonder why? Did your doc explain this?

              Jen
              Currently trying: Apr 06 Bee Wilder's Candida (natural healing) Diet; May 06 Home made red LED array; Aug 06 ZZ ointment.

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              • #8
                I would say that the second picture down shows my normal resting redness (the one with the papule on my cheek). The very first one shows my usual morning wake up flush. The last two are 4/5 days post IPL and ofcourse with the herpes/seb derm flair so yes they are definately abit redder than normal during a flush.

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                • #9
                  It does look sore Sarah. Did the doc say why the Herpes/Seb Derm break out happened after treatment, or is this usual? Sorry for the questions, I don't know enough about it.

                  Have things calmed down a bit for you now?

                  Jen
                  Currently trying: Apr 06 Bee Wilder's Candida (natural healing) Diet; May 06 Home made red LED array; Aug 06 ZZ ointment.

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                  • #10
                    Sorry I forgot to answer this part of the question. Any form of light (ie IPL, laser or even strong sunlight) can apparently trigger this type of reaction. I have had laser before and hadn't had any reaction so I was a bit surprised after the IPL. Treament consisted of 1% hydrocortisone cream for a few days, although I know now that zovirex (I haven'tspelled that right ) would also have helped the cold sore stuff.

                    Took a while for my face to finally calm down but it didn't seem to have any major long term effects.

                    I just had an ND:Yag treament and am waiting to see if the flair returns (fingers crossed).

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                    • #11
                      Hi phlika, sorry to bump up your old thread but having just viewed your pictures I'm not sure why you feel you have seb derm on your cheeks. Your skin doesn't really show signs of oiliness or flakiness which are usually the tell tale signs of seb derm. I think the redness on your cheeks is the result of rosacea and dilated blood vessels and definitely not any yeast or seb derm problem. I would say that your increase in cheek redness was just the result of the laser antagonising the epidermal layers. The majority of rosacea sufferers experience this redness post IPL.

                      Seb derm usually manifests itself around the nasal flaps and in the T-zone. I have seb derm in my T-zone and on my scalp so am quite familiar with the problem and it doesn't resemble your cheeks. But I have heard that IPL can aggravate seb derm which is annoying..

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                      • #12
                        Its really hard to explain how it felt at the time (as 9 months since) but it definelty wasn't just rosacea. It didn't look flakey but it was. Every time I have any form of laser treatment I suffer increased oiliness and slight reaction. Although it is hard to tell the reaction was in a defined area on my skin that was immediately relieved with hydrocortisone cream. The reaction arrived within the space of a couple of hours. I showed the photos to both Dr Crouch and Dr Chu and they both thought it was seb derm/dermatitis.

                        I'd forgotten how bad the photos looked

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                        • #13
                          Well of course those two doctors are going to know a hell of a lot more than me, and are likely to be a better judge . But as a seb derm sufferer it just doesn't seem to resemble the condition I have. It's probably more likely to be dermatitis or just the skin's reaction to IPL treatment. It's good to know that it cleared up though, but I would definitely be careful with the steroid cream... any rosacea sufferer's Dr. Evil!

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                          • #14
                            I thought that I would post some pictures of my latest KTP/Yag treatment. This time the setting were turned up high to try to deal with the persistent base redness. KTP 532 was at 12 J/cm squared, 30 msec pulse width over 10 mm diameter spot(1 pass) followed by the Yag 1064: 40j/cm squared, 55 msec pulse width (2 passes).

                            4 days post laser:



                            11 days post laser:



                            The spots are fading really slowly but I'm hoping that they will do the job.

                            Sarah

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                            • #15
                              Wow Sarah,

                              that is great!!


                              best wishes
                              Moomy
                              dx early 2006.
                              current stategy;
                              finacea (on occasional spot), 20+ x IPL and 17+ low level PDL (n-light)

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