hey please help me. my face is gettting bad

[legendsneverdie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legendsneverdie]

my whole life i use to take steaming hot showers and wash my face with the dial bar soap and never had a problem. the past few months well is a different story. a while back i was a dishwasher and got eczema on my hands from the soaps and stuff. the docotor gave me a bunch of Triamcinolone Acetonide. cleared it right up. so as time went on i started to get little spots of dry skin on my face. so i put the steroid stuff on my face. i think i would of been fine then if i used a decent moisturizer on my face for it but i was really ignorant. so a few years later i run out of the tiamcionline acetonide ( that being maybe 2 months ago). i now realise how bad that stuff was for my face in the first place after reading up on it and how unaware of it i was. i dont know if i have destoried my skins ability to hydrate its self. or maybe have a steorid induced rocesa. yah and for anyone who is going to tell me to go to the dermetologist lol i m not insured and it is pretty much out of the question . disregard the white stuff u seen on my face it is diaper rash lotion (yes i am tryin it, it doesnt work to great). i ve dried eucerin original, eucerin plus, a dove facial mositurizer with spf15 in it, and this stuff called bio oil. it all fails miserably. the onlything that is ok is the diaper rash stuff ( A + D zinc oxide cream). and its not ok cuz it heals the redness it just covers it and makes me feel alot less ashamed. i usta be a pretty confident dude but my confidence is slashed in half. why on my face does this redness have to be? y not my arm or something damn. well here is some pics and again the white is just the diaper rash cream.



so please anyone give me any kind of help and tell me what u think i have. i m guess its eczema or rosacea. i have it in my eyebrows to. i have dandruff, chapped lips. and between my eyebrows and even above them a little bit. i also have been getting patches of drish skin in my beard area but they dotn seem to get as bad (yet anyway). u can see the red patches around my beard area in the pics.


cliffs:
-face used to be fine
-started to get dry a few years ago
-stupidly was using steroid cream on my face for maybe 2-3 years
- ran out of it, looked up steroid cream found out i was dumb for doing that
- not using steroid cream, i have some more refuse to use it
- i need heelp, what do ihave? how can i help it?
- embarassed in public confidence slashed in half in not more.

[legendsneverdie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legendsneverdie]

here are the pics: (once again the white stuff is zinc oxide cream / diapper rash cream that i am try with no success)

[Auburn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Auburn]

Hi Legend,

Sounds like you have seb derm.

Hot showers make things worse. Try taking shorter showers and don't let the hot water touch your face. If possible, use a hand held shower head to rinse your head.

There's no cure for seb derm but it can be controlled.

Some people get good results with OTC antifungal creams and shampoos (e.g., Nizoral).

Others have had good luck with prescription treatments (e.g., Promiseb/Sebclair cream and shampoo; Extina foam).

And others, like myself, have found relief using natural treatments (raw honey and virgin coconut oil - click the link in my sig for more info) and modifying their diet (eliminating sugar and adding probiotics, digestive enzymes, good fats).

HTH

[solutionquest Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close solutionquest]

Your skin looks similar to mine in the nose/cheek area

You might try sleeping in a raw honey mask. That is what I do and it has helped me so much. I am also taking 50 mg of doxy. I eat small meals many times a day.

[legendsneverdie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legendsneverdie]

Hi Legend,

Sounds like you have seb derm.

Hot showers make things worse. Try taking shorter showers and don't let the hot water touch your face. If possible, use a hand held shower head to rinse your head.

There's no cure for seb derm but it can be controlled.

Some people get good results with OTC antifungal creams and shampoos (e.g., Nizoral).

Others have had good luck with prescription treatments (e.g., Promiseb/Sebclair cream and shampoo; Extina foam).

And others, like myself, have found relief using natural treatments (raw honey and virgin coconut oil - click the link in my sig for more info) and modifying their diet (eliminating sugar and adding probiotics, digestive enzymes, good fats).

HTH

so washing my face with selsun blue or head and sholders may help? i think htere is a traders joe around here they might have the raw honey i hope.

You might try sleeping in a raw honey mask. That is what I do and it has helped me so much. I am also taking 50 mg of doxy. I eat small meals many times a day.

how do u not get the honey on ur pillow?

my face looks horrible today. i tried washing it with selsun blue. i relapsed today and put some steroid on it way to fukin red.

[WrinkledClue Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WrinkledClue]

Please read this article about putting steroids on your face:

http://kellypalace61.web.officelive....ionArticle.pdf

[WrinkledClue Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WrinkledClue]

Hello there,

I’m so sorry to hear this; topical steriods are known to thin the skin and worsen flushing over time.

The generally accepted wisdom is to wean off the steroid slowly, over a period of about two months. You have to do it slowly to lessen rebound flares that might worsen things.

Elidel and Noritate are highly recommended while you are doing this.

Many docs will also put you on oral antibiotics like Clarithromycin. Some will put you on very-low-dose isotretinoin (accutane) at 5 milligrams a day.

Apparently this approach lessens the rebound reaction. You can’t just stop the steroid after long use.

Later, when the skin is healed a bit, please consider getting IPL treatments from a good rosacea doc to rebuild the dermis.

[Auburn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Auburn]

my face looks horrible today. i tried washing it with selsun blue.

The selenium sulfide, in the Selsun Blue at 1% strength, helps control the symptoms of dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis on the scalp. It is too strong to use on the face. Some forum members have reported improvement when used on the face in a very diluted solution (like a speck of Selsun Blue diluted in lukewarm water).

When you apply an anti dandruff shampoo to the face, as you would to the scalp, you are likely to get a reaction like what you are experiencing right now.

These photos you took today clearly show that you have seb derm and exactly where it is.

This redness will subside, even if you did nothing else, in a few days. Of course, you don't have the time to wait this out.

The raw honey treatment should help. If you decide to try it, please do follow the instructions. Do not expect to see results overnight. However, if the treatment works for you, within a couple of weeks your skin will feel and look calmer and much less red.

[legendsneverdie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legendsneverdie]

Hello there,

I’m so sorry to hear this; topical steriods are known to thin the skin and worsen flushing over time.

The generally accepted wisdom is to wean off the steroid slowly, over a period of about two months. You have to do it slowly to lessen rebound flares that might worsen things.

Elidel and Noritate are highly recommended while you are doing this.

Many docs will also put you on oral antibiotics like Clarithromycin. Some will put you on very-low-dose isotretinoin (accutane) at 5 milligrams a day.

Apparently this approach lessens the rebound reaction. You can’t just stop the steroid after long use.

Later, when the skin is healed a bit, please consider getting IPL treatments from a good rosacea doc to rebuild the dermis.

i really have no health insurance no doctor is going to take me and i dont have 100s or thousands of dollars for anything u've mentioned. wish i did.

The selenium sulfide, in the Selsun Blue at 1% strength, helps control the symptoms of dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis on the scalp. It is too strong to use on the face. Some forum members have reported improvement when used on the face in a very diluted solution (like a speck of Selsun Blue diluted in lukewarm water).

When you apply an anti dandruff shampoo to the face, as you would to the scalp, you are likely to get a reaction like what you are experiencing right now.

These photos you took today clearly show that you have seb derm and exactly where it is.

This redness will subside, even if you did nothing else, in a few days. Of course, you don't have the time to wait this out.

The raw honey treatment should help. If you decide to try it, please do follow the instructions. Do not expect to see results overnight. However, if the treatment works for you, within a couple of weeks your skin will feel and look calmer and much less red.

ithink i m goonna go find some raw honey at trader joe's todaay. do you think i should try to weine of the steroid a little? what if it is sub derm and a skin steroid addiction too like the pervious poster mentioned? do you think my face is going to scar at this point? i never itch it. the most i do is tap it or rub it gently if it is really bothering me.

[Auburn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Auburn]

ithink i m goonna go find some raw honey at trader joe's todaay. do you think i should try to weine of the steroid a little? what if it is sub derm and a skin steroid addiction too like the pervious poster mentioned?

WrinkledClue's advice is right on the mark. However, if you are going to treat the seb derm with something else (say the raw honey), then I believe weaning off the steroid may not be necessary (and it probably wouldn't be a good idea to apply the raw honey and the steroid cream at the same time).

do you think my face is going to scar at this point? i never itch it. the most i do is tap it or rub it gently if it is really bothering me.

Most likely not, but it will take a few days to calm down and a few weeks to improve, once you start treating it.

One important thing to remember, Legend, which applies to all of us with sensitive skin: always spot-test any new product you put on your skin, even if it's completely natural, like raw honey.

Good luck!

[Auburn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Auburn]

ithink i m goonna go find some raw honey at trader joe's todaay.

I just remembered that I tried some raw honey at Trader Joe's last year. It was packaged in a deli style container and its consistency was very different from the raw honey I buy at a local apiary, it was very hard and had no crystals, which solidified raw honey must have. So, I'm thinking that if you buy TJ's honey, it might be difficult to mix with the water. I know it's about half the price but maybe it'd be better to get raw honey from the health food shop, if you can. Make sure that the label states the honey hasn't been heated or processed in any way, otherwise don't buy it.

[legendsneverdie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legendsneverdie]

I just remembered that I tried some raw honey at Trader Joe's last year. It was packaged in a deli style container and its consistency was very different from the raw honey I buy at a local apiary, it was very hard and had no crystals, which solidified raw honey must have. So, I'm thinking that if you buy TJ's honey, it might be difficult to mix with the water. I know it's about half the price but maybe it'd be better to get raw honey from the health food shop, if you can. Make sure that the label states the honey hasn't been heated or processed in any way, otherwise don't buy it.

hm ok i gotta find a health food store around here.. i really hope it works. really depressed today and i get really angry easily cuz its just at the back of my mind.

[legendsneverdie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legendsneverdie]

i called up a local health store. they said they have a few organic raw honies and some raw honies. i m guessing i need just the organic raw honey. they also have virgin coconut oil aswell. hopefully this works.

[dan pacifik Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dan pacifik]

The redness will fade, not completely but to a degree where you feel better about yourself. I'd definitely stop the steroid cream though. I've never used it myself and have nearly managed to rid myself of most symptoms. Be patient, and try not to be angry with yourself. It will only make the seb derm worse. Do something that makes you feel better about yourself...... exercise etc.

Do give the honey a go though, it certainly has helped alleviate some of my symptoms. For now i'd just try that. When the redness has subsided try some watered down nizoral once every day but then once the flakes and redness has started to fade miss a day or 2 in between. Make sure you get a good moisturiser (oil-free maybe better). I've just got some samples of Sakura's Zeoderm moisturiser (free off the website) and so far i'm really impressed with it. Absorbs quickly.

You may also want to get a ketoconazole cream like daktakort gold or nizoral. This should help to fight the itch and redness throughout the day. I currently use sebclair which works better imo

[Auburn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Auburn]

i called up a local health store. they said they have a few organic raw honies and some raw honies. i m guessing i need just the organic raw honey. they also have virgin coconut oil aswell. hopefully this works.

Legends, if the organic raw honey is a lot more expensive, just buy the non-organic raw honey. Most apiaries produce non-organic raw honey and that's what I've been using.

Same thing about the coconut oil. As long as it's virgin, it's ok. Health food shops normally carry Nutiva and Jungle Products, which I tried and they work. You'll probably see Spectrum there too, but based on the reviews I read online, I'd say pass.

"Now" is another brand you may to check out online reviews. It's one of the most inexpensive ones. I haven't tried it but I know someone who has and he reported good results.

Try to stay calm. I know it's not easy, but it helps the skin.

Hang in there.