Mirvaso has been approved by the FDA.

[Drkatzjr]

I had a horrible experience with this cream. As others have stated, it left white blotchy areas on my skin. Do not use!!!

[GreenGables]

But using it once or twice a month would hardly do that . Again back to everything in moderation

Until I get my hands on it and dilute to half strength I wont really know .

And this is how I would dilute it .

I would just empty the whole tube of Mirvaso into a Jar and then empty the same amount of moisturiser into the same jar then I would stir it for a while and put a lid on it .

Hey presto we have half strength Mirvaso .

I did this the other day because I was had a big flush and I was giving a big presentation and needed the redness gone. Makeup was not covering it.

The only difference was that I just sort of mixed the two in the palm of my hand. The moisturizer I used was Even Advanced.

So the redness did go down but not all the way. Full strength Mirvaso would make me look like I never had rosacea. Diluted strength left me a little rosy cheeked but more normal looking.

I used a pea sized dot of Mirvaso and a lot more moisturizer. If I just use straight Mirvaso I need two or three times that to evenly cover the face. So the mixture was either half strength or 1/3 the strength.

I STILL GOT A REBOUND FLUSH late that night however it was very mild in comparison and was gone by morning.

Don't want to use Mirvaso regularly because I have no idea if long term it makes things worse. But if anyone was curious about an experiment, you got it. If I do need a quick fix again I will just dilute the stuff.

Oh, another thing. You gotta leave this stuff on for a long time before putting anything else on your face. Minimum 30 minutes before applying makeup or sunscreen. Otherwise you get patchy and incomplete paleness.

[Shikasta]

Interesting , so a side effect of mirvaso is flushing in non flushers.
That's like putting rogaine on your head, and your hair starts falling out even more.

Yes, their pamphlet said, "possible side effects include a worsening of rosacea symptoms." I was just about to try the sample and found it hard to put the brakes on at that point, but I obviously should have.

[Samar2000]

I don't look red . until I meet my triggers

But we have seen on here a few times Mirvaso causing non flushers to flush for the first time

Interesting , so a side effect of mirvaso is flushing in non flushers.
That's like putting rogaine on your head, and your hair starts falling out even more.

[davekelly]

That makes more sense.

I don't look red . until I meet my triggers

But we have seen on here a few times Mirvaso causing non flushers to flush for the first time

[Samar2000]

Strange, I have a exchange on French forum with my derm. For him, Mirvaso targets more permanent redness and it is less useful for flushing, but in overall, he doesn't recommend Mirvaso.

That makes more sense.

[FaceRouge]

Strange, I have a exchange on French forum with my derm. For him, Mirvaso targets more permanent redness and it is less useful for flushing, but in overall, he doesn't recommend Mirvaso.

[wiry]

Received this post from one of the RRDi MAC Members:

Dear Colleages,


Since Mirvaso was lanched in my country (Spain), I have observed poor impact on my clinical practice: This drug is targeted to reduce erythema on rosácea (Flushing) with many researches supporting its efectivity. However, most of my patients suffering from rosacea do not complain on flushing, but permanent redness for which brimonidine gel is not indicated. This reduces dramatically the prescription of this drug on my daily clinical practice.
I have discussed this matter with my local colleages and they have found the same limitation in this way.


What's your opinion about?

Regards,


Husein Husein-ElAhmed MD

Posted the above here

Huh? He says erythema is flushing and that permanent redness is not erythema. One of us is confused.

[Brady Barrows]

Received this post from one of the RRDi MAC Members:

Dear Colleages,


Since Mirvaso was lanched in my country (Spain), I have observed poor impact on my clinical practice: This drug is targeted to reduce erythema on rosácea (Flushing) with many researches supporting its efectivity. However, most of my patients suffering from rosacea do not complain on flushing, but permanent redness for which brimonidine gel is not indicated. This reduces dramatically the prescription of this drug on my daily clinical practice.
I have discussed this matter with my local colleages and they have found the same limitation in this way.


What's your opinion about?

Regards,


Husein Husein-ElAhmed MD

Posted the above here

[davekelly]

Ive just had a good look at the Exclusion Criteria of this Mirvaso Study

And KPRF is on the list .

So what they are saying is that Mirvaso wont work for KPRF redness .

Seb Derm is also on the list .

[davekelly]

A new Mirvaso study? Sign up for that one, dave
http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT02249065

This is turning out to be some Circus all right .

If Mirvaso is so brilliant according to those sales reps . Why do Galderma need to do another study ?

And the way they spoke in their posts = scumbags

[nat007]

Yeh I feel the same way Wiry, some of the positive comments online sound very generic, and some might be true. On that closed rosacea facebook group there are also some, a few, who have good success with Mirvaso but I read equally if not more comments there from people who tried it and had bad rebound and who stopped using it.

I have gathered now 62 positive Mirvaso reviews and 313 negative ones: http://scarletnat.blogspot.fr/2013/1...responses.html

Thanks for the link Brady I will see if some of yours are forgotten in my list.

I also had the impression that someone from our forum here posted in that Galderma cafepharma thread No idea who and I'm sure he or she isn't keen on exposing himself here due to offended Galderma rep boys repercussions lol (jokes), but well done and it's the truth, the many negative patient reviews in Brady and my list tend to be so detailed and consistent in their describing of the effects of Mirvaso that I have zero doubt that this is the truth for well over half of rosacea patients using Mirvaso, possible a lot more than 50%, also going by the off balance in positive/negative reviews online.
Had to laugh about us being the washing detergent mafia though :P For anyone who doesn't have rosacea, aka the Rep sales mafia sleek boyzzz, it makes no sense indeed, does it
But this is not a conspiracy against their product and I see they still resort to ridicule to protect their lacking sales product.

[wiry]

I count 26 negative reports at WebMD collected here. The majority do favor Mirvaso.

I was looking through those reviews and a lot of the positive ones just seem fishy. A lot of people claiming it works, but only if you cut it with something. This is what the reps are saying on the cafepharma forum as well so it makes me wonder. How is it that all of these people were able to independently and effectively cut it, without collaboration, but yet noone on this forum has? Its just odd.

And this:
"I am a physician and have prescribed Mirvaso for many of my patients. No significant problums thus far."

First off, that would seem statistically impossible. Second, how is that a physician cannot spell "problems". That is not a typo, but a the phonetic spelling. I call BS on a lot of those reviews. The wording...things are just off.

[David Pascoe]

The main site that bashes it is a rosacea forum/chat room site. But they don't like anything...capitalism, vaccines, laundry detergent...you name it. What I do know is the providers in my area have warmed up to Mirvaso considerably over the course of the past year. I think it will be prescribed for years to come (I'm not saying this just because I represent it)"

http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?t=567768

Surely they don't mean us do they ?????

[Brady Barrows]

I count 26 negative reports at WebMD collected here. The majority do favor Mirvaso.