Latest scoop on Melanotan II?

[YankeesRtheBest]

I wa sjust curious if anyone knew about that melanotan product that was discussed a while ago. Will this product actually become a reality and make rosaceans tan, giving them natural protection from the sun? Is there an approximate year that this may be released? 2006, 07 maybe? Thanks.
-Chris

[todmiller]

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I think this product will make it to the market. May not get US FDA approval for some time, but might still be "attainable" via the web, who knows. My guess is that in 4 years the Ausies will finish testing it.

However, there are reports of flushing from some who have undergone testing.

One positive thing to consider is that this flushing was reported with what might have been an initial high dosage. Perhaps the end product will require a smaller dose, which might not make people flush at all. (We'll find out eventually.)

However, a negative factor to consider is that somebody from marketing told me that their exclusion criteria included any skin conditions (including rosacea, I assume). In other words, those who flushed didn't even have rosacea. So who knows what it might do to rosaceans. I'm guessing they won't bother testing it on us, and we'll just have to find out for ourselves. Worth a shot, in my opinion. I look forward to this product as well. Heck, if nothing else it's an advancement in medicine of some sort. I love it when we figure out ways to fool mother nature! =)

[drnase]

You can go to www.epitan.com.au and sign up to receive their updates.

I think this product will make it to the market. May not get US FDA approval for some time, but might still be "attainable" via the web, who knows. My guess is that in 4 years the Ausies will finish testing it.

However, there are reports of flushing from some who have undergone testing.

One positive thing to consider is that this flushing was reported with what might have been an initial high dosage. Perhaps the end product will require a smaller dose, which might not make people flush at all. (We'll find out eventually.)

However, a negative factor to consider is that somebody from marketing told me that their exclusion criteria included any skin conditions (including rosacea, I assume). In other words, those who flushed didn't even have rosacea. So who knows what it might do to rosaceans. I'm guessing they won't bother testing it on us, and we'll just have to find out for ourselves. Worth a shot, in my opinion. I look forward to this product as well. Heck, if nothing else it's an advancement in medicine of some sort. I love it when we figure out ways to fool mother nature! =)

Todd,

I also have hope for this product. They actually started out with the goal of making it an indication for people prone to skin cancer and photo-sensitive dermatoses. We shall see what they eventually decide.

Good point on the doseage -- they have changed that and it will come in several doses. The tanning effects occur so quickly and last so long that one should not need a large bolus of the drug to make a marked difference on rosacea skin. This would even out the blotchiness, be a pretty darn good concealer for rosacea redness and make rosacea skin much less reactive to sun and external heat.

[YankeesRtheBest]

Thanks man, I appreciate the reply. Yea, I knew I should have gotten my hopes up. It's such an up and down roller coaster with this thing. Thanks again though. -Chris

[drnase]

Thanks man, I appreciate the reply. Yea, I knew I should have gotten my hopes up. It's such an up and down roller coaster with this thing. Thanks again though. -Chris

I think the biggest concern right now is with males (spontaneous errections). I hope this was not too blunt.

[QSilverTwo]

If anyone is interested in finding out more about this drug, head on over to www.melanotan.org where there is tons of info and self research results.

[Mermaid]

You can go to www.epitan.com.au and sign up to receive their updates.

I think this product will make it to the market. May not get US FDA approval for some time, but might still be "attainable" via the web, who knows. My guess is that in 4 years the Ausies will finish testing it.

However, there are reports of flushing from some who have undergone testing.

One positive thing to consider is that this flushing was reported with what might have been an initial high dosage. Perhaps the end product will require a smaller dose, which might not make people flush at all. (We'll find out eventually.)

However, a negative factor to consider is that somebody from marketing told me that their exclusion criteria included any skin conditions (including rosacea, I assume). In other words, those who flushed didn't even have rosacea. So who knows what it might do to rosaceans. I'm guessing they won't bother testing it on us, and we'll just have to find out for ourselves. Worth a shot, in my opinion. I look forward to this product as well. Heck, if nothing else it's an advancement in medicine of some sort. I love it when we figure out ways to fool mother nature! =)

Todd,

I also have hope for this product. They actually started out with the goal of making it an indication for people prone to skin cancer and photo-sensitive dermatoses. We shall see what they eventually decide.

Good point on the doseage -- they have changed that and it will come in several doses. The tanning effects occur so quickly and last so long that one should not need a large bolus of the drug to make a marked difference on rosacea skin. This would even out the blotchiness, be a pretty darn good concealer for rosacea redness and make rosacea skin much less reactive to sun and external heat.

Hi Geoffrey,

This will probably come out sounding really naive and obvious but is it possible to get all those benefits you mentioned without getting a tan?

I like my pale skin and am probably in the vast minority who doesn't desire a tan.

I'm guessing that I'll be waiting for some other innovation.

Thanks Geoffrey,

Mermaid

[Kris Jacobs]

Spontaneous erections? Really?

I know that when Epitan first started testing Melanotan, the medicine worked/stayed in the body for about a month. Initially this was a concern because flushing for a month straight could be devastating to rosacea sufferers. And the worst part is that there is nothing we could do about it.

From what I understand now, the new trials have given positive results because they can control how much of this enters the blood stream.
Could be promising.

Kris jacobs

[irishgenes]

Mermaid, I have pale white skin and red hair, too, and have never tanned well. I freckle, so I think Epitan would just make me freckle. I think we would be well protected from sun flushing with Glisodin, and it is available right now. In fact, I just ordered some last night. (See thread on Glisodin Supplement in the Oral Products, Non-prescription.) http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templat...2074&zoneid=23

[fanta]

I doubt GliSodin has some actions against skin cancer, but perhaps it will reduce sun-induced inflammation a little bit (probably not that much for rosaceans with VEGF out of order).

[Mermaid]

Mermaid, I have pale white skin and red hair, too, and have never tanned well. I freckle, so I think Epitan would just make me freckle. I think we would be well protected from sun flushing with Glisodin, and it is available right now. In fact, I just ordered some last night. (See thread on Glisodin Supplement in the Oral Products, Non-prescription.) http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templat...2074&zoneid=23

Hello Irish....

Thank you so much for the link. I will be ordering this supplement pronto!

I'd also like to thank you for being there for all of us, with your advice, intelligence and compassion. It is greatly appreciated and although many do not tell you, they will be thinking it.

Mermaid

[francois]

I wonder whether melatonan makes people flush only once right after it is injected or taken or do you flush frequently all those months until its effects disappear. That must be horrible.

[fanta]

I wonder whether melatonan makes people flush only once right after it is injected or taken or do you flush frequently all those months until its effects disappear. That must be horrible.

NOT ONLY WILL YOU FLUSH ALL THOSE MONTHS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL! :^o

[Max]

I wonder whether melatonan makes people flush only once right after it is injected or taken or do you flush frequently all those months until its effects disappear. That must be horrible.

all those that reported flushing was short term, sounds similar to a niacin...

QSilverTwo already posted melanotan link, here's a direct link to the forum:

http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

[Max]

I wonder whether melatonan makes people flush only once right after it is injected or taken or do you flush frequently all those months until its effects disappear. That must be horrible.

NOT ONLY WILL YOU FLUSH ALL THOSE MONTHS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL! :^o

what makes you think that flushing will last that long? doesn't that stuff have a half-life period as all other things? i don't buy it

some pics of "beta-testers":

http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=melanotan2exp;action=display;num=1127398813

http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=melanotan2exp;action=display;num=1124584787;start=39

quite impressive... and maybe too much