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  • Brady Barrows
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    Originally posted by pontypool View Post
    Link doesn't work
    IowaDavid put this link up in October 2014 and his last post he made here at RF was in December 2015, and sad to say, he passed away in June 2016, and he is surely missed. He was an avid poster (1,415 posts) and contributor here at RF. The link was to his own website which is no more.
    Last edited by Brady Barrows; 18 March 2021, 12:54 PM.

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  • pontypool
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    Originally posted by IowaDavid View Post
    I use the Soothing Rain TM Light Unit. You can find info here: www.soothingrainlight.com . It comes with a return policy for an in-home trial so you can make sure RLT is working for your unique expression of rosacea--no risk.

    I wouldn't use the Baby Quasar MD Plus for a couple of reasons. It's a handheld and you're going to get irregular coverage on your face that may not do a thorough job and it will take you a lot longer to do daily treatments.
    More importantly, the Baby Quasar uses infrared light and this tends to be worse for rosacea sufferers--more likely to cause increased redness and flushing in a greater number of people.

    Best,

    David
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  • IowaDavid
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    Originally posted by davekelly View Post
    Will this also work for KPRF ?

    A Friend of mine has been asking about it
    I don't know, to be honest. RLT would theoretically have some benefits for any inflammatory skin disorder that appears toward the surface of the skin. That being said, I have no direct or anecdotal experience with KPRF and RLT. There's a full refund policy for that product with a 60-day in-home trial period. Sometimes the only way to know is to try something out.

    Best,

    David

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  • davekelly
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    Originally posted by IowaDavid View Post
    I use the Soothing Rain TM Light Unit. You can find info here: www.soothingrainlight.com . It comes with a return policy for an in-home trial so you can make sure RLT is working for your unique expression of rosacea--no risk.

    I wouldn't use the Baby Quasar MD Plus for a couple of reasons. It's a handheld and you're going to get irregular coverage on your face that may not do a thorough job and it will take you a lot longer to do daily treatments.
    More importantly, the Baby Quasar uses infrared light and this tends to be worse for rosacea sufferers--more likely to cause increased redness and flushing in a greater number of people.

    Best,

    David
    Will this also work for KPRF ?

    A Friend of mine has been asking about it
    Last edited by davekelly; 26 October 2014, 11:27 PM.

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  • IowaDavid
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    Originally posted by wiry View Post
    David,

    Your commercial unit looks pretty as far as specs go and is pretty convenient for full face. I have been thinking about trying it out. But I also thought you are using a higher power unit now? So are you using the commercial unit or a custom built higher power unit?
    I'm continuing to experiment with a homebuilt array, though it needs some work as several of the connections are coming loose. I also use my commercial model at home and definitely when I'm traveling because it's much easier to transport, open up, and put away.

    Best,

    David

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  • wiry
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    David,

    Your commercial unit looks pretty as far as specs go and is pretty convenient for full face. I have been thinking about trying it out. But I also thought you are using a higher power unit now? So are you using the commercial unit or a custom built higher power unit?

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  • IowaDavid
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    Originally posted by davekelly View Post
    Hi David

    Baby Quasar MD Plus costs $800

    Is that what you have ?
    I use the Soothing Rain TM Light Unit. You can find info here: www.soothingrainlight.com . It comes with a return policy for an in-home trial so you can make sure RLT is working for your unique expression of rosacea--no risk.

    I wouldn't use the Baby Quasar MD Plus for a couple of reasons. It's a handheld and you're going to get irregular coverage on your face that may not do a thorough job and it will take you a lot longer to do daily treatments.
    More importantly, the Baby Quasar uses infrared light and this tends to be worse for rosacea sufferers--more likely to cause increased redness and flushing in a greater number of people.

    Best,

    David

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  • davekelly
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    Hi David

    Baby Quasar MD Plus costs $800

    Is that what you have ?

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  • IowaDavid
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    Originally posted by findingaway View Post
    Simply, yes. However, in the year my symptoms started, I went on a mad 20 hour a day mission to reverse my condition, trying everything under the sun. My skin never got to a state where it was red without flushing - well, not badly anyhow.

    What RLT did do is stop the flushing when drinking and eating spicey food and reduce the instances of seemingly random flushing.

    I think other treatments may be much more effective than RLT for reversing permanent redness unfortunately, although you'd need to do some digging as I'm not the best one to ask. There are some pics of my condition when it was at its worse on this forum somewhere!
    It's helpful to distinguish between "permanent" redness and "baseline" redness, though they can be difficult to separate at times because they overlap one another.

    Permanent redness in my mind would be like micro-telangiectasia and for this you'd most likely need a laser treatment or IPL to remove the vessels because they've gone past the point of healing themselves.

    However, if you think about what your face looks like when it's at its best, i.e. first thing in the morning for some people or after a period of fast or after having taken a particular medication (like an antihistamine, for instance), with consistent use RLT can make your face look like this much more often/on a regular basis. RLT will keep your face looking this way despite triggers and insults throughout the day. You do need to use it for awhile in order to see these maximum benefits, though.

    As findingaway said, RLT will also prevent flushing from occurring to problem triggers you may have, and this will be individually dependent on what it helps with because it's stopping the inflammation that's causing you to be sensitized to these triggers in the first place. RLT may help one person with spontaneous afternoon/late-day flushing (which I always found especially frustrating because there was no way to stop it) or with a reaction to spicy foods in a different person. On balance, though, it should help minimize your flushing response to most of your triggers.

    Personally, I found for flushing *prevention* that RLT worked much, much better than anything that lasers or IPL ever did for me. Lasers and IPL helped with some visible symptoms, but I never found them to be very good at treating burning and pain in my face, and I never really noticed much help from them for allowing me to get back to my day-to-day life beyond rosacea.

    Best,

    David

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  • findingaway
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    Originally posted by davekelly View Post
    Did it turn your skin back to its original pale colour ? from -

    That's the 6 million dollar question
    Simply, yes. However, in the year my symptoms started, I went on a mad 20 hour a day mission to reverse my condition, trying everything under the sun. My skin never got to a state where it was red without flushing - well, not badly anyhow.

    What RLT did do is stop the flushing when drinking and eating spicey food and reduce the instances of seemingly random flushing.

    I think other treatments may be much more effective than RLT for reversing permanent redness unfortunately, although you'd need to do some digging as I'm not the best one to ask. There are some pics of my condition when it was at its worse on this forum somewhere!

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  • davekelly
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    Originally posted by findingaway View Post
    Really? There's load of info about isn't there?

    Defo worth a go. Don't think I've heard of it having any negative effects, certainly not long term anyhow.
    Did it turn your skin back to its original pale colour ? from -

    That's the 6 million dollar question

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  • findingaway
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    Originally posted by burnforyou View Post
    Thanks for the update!!! As u know, many of us in here are starved of info in regard to red light therapy.
    Really? There's load of info about isn't there?

    Defo worth a go. Don't think I've heard of it having any negative effects, certainly not long term anyhow.

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  • burnforyou
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    Originally posted by findingaway View Post
    It's been a while. I wondered how people are getting on?

    I stopped using red light therapy a few years ago. It seemed to do the trick at keeping Rosacea at bay. I've continued to take astanaxthan, vit d3 and magnesium. Mostly, my symptoms have stayed at bay. However, I still suffer phantom burning (like right now with no redness) and flushing when I exercise (badly).

    If the phantom burning continues (which has become more prominent recently due to stress me thinks), I think it'll revisit the RLT.
    Thanks for the update!!! As u know, many of us in here are starved of info in regard to red light therapy.

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  • findingaway
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    It's been a while. I wondered how people are getting on?

    I stopped using red light therapy a few years ago. It seemed to do the trick at keeping Rosacea at bay. I've continued to take astanaxthan, vit d3 and magnesium. Mostly, my symptoms have stayed at bay. However, I still suffer phantom burning (like right now with no redness) and flushing when I exercise (badly).

    If the phantom burning continues (which has become more prominent recently due to stress me thinks), I think it'll revisit the RLT.

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  • rcb67
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    Originally posted by cameron View Post
    I have an all red 66nm from the led man. Great unit. Love it. No need to go to infared. It will not dry out your skin. It will moisturize it. I don't use eye protection but if you want go ahead and use it. Calms the skin down and reduces inflamation.
    so this has helped you with red skin?

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