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    Hello everyone, sorry for another post. I had my first ever purpuric V-Beam treatment on the 22nd of August, and it is the 31st today. Initially my purpura on my face were purple, and now they are combination of (mostly) red and (some) light red marks. My question is, what is the NORMAL color changes of a purpuric vbeam treatment, and in which days do these color changes usually occur? I know it is different for everyone, but any bit of information helps. I am freaking out, its more than a week already, and I'm worried it will not heal anymore, or if it became hyper pigmentation or is stained. Thank you so much.

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    Originally posted by nepia View Post
    Hello everyone, sorry for another post. I had my first ever purpuric V-Beam treatment on the 22nd of August, and it is the 31st today. Initially my purpura on my face were purple, and now they are combination of (mostly) red and (some) light red marks. My question is, what is the NORMAL color changes of a purpuric vbeam treatment, and in which days do these color changes usually occur? I know it is different for everyone, but any bit of information helps. I am freaking out, its more than a week already, and I'm worried it will not heal anymore, or if it became hyper pigmentation or is stained. Thank you so much.
    Hey nepia,

    I know vbeam can be quite daunting, but I can share some images of treatment that I had which hopefully will put your mind a bit more at ease. Drop me a PM and i'll send you them through.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Seb91 View Post
      Hey nepia,

      I know vbeam can be quite daunting, but I can share some images of treatment that I had which hopefully will put your mind a bit more at ease. Drop me a PM and i'll send you them through.
      Hello, I appreciate the reply. That would be great if you could, thank you so much! But I am unable to send you a PM, I don't see a PM option.
      Last edited by nepia; 3 September 2019, 06:31 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Seb91 View Post
        Hey nepia,

        I know vbeam can be quite daunting, but I can share some images of treatment that I had which hopefully will put your mind a bit more at ease. Drop me a PM and i'll send you them through.
        Hello Seb91, I can finally send PMs now. I sent you one

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        • #5
          Originally posted by nepia View Post
          Hello Seb91, I can finally send PMs now. I sent you one
          I have some YouTube videos on my channel where you can see the marks caused by vBeam.

          They start off very purple looking and change to red and finally an orangish colour.

          That orance can hang around for some time. Get yourself some Hyluronic acid and Niacinamide to help resolve things over time. The Ordinary do good products.
          I'm recovering from Mirvaso-induced skin damage. Ask me about it if you are too.


          T-Shirt: "Laser skin treatment. That's what it is if you're wondering. Yes, it hurt."

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          • #6
            By the way, I had my previous Vbeam treatment on November 15th. It is now 21st December and I'm still not healed.

            The bruising has faded a LOT, but there are still obvious marks on my face where I had the treatment.

            If you didn't know I'd had laser, a person might just assume I've been in a fight or had an accident. The redness also resembles rosacea a little, and yet I know for a fact the redness I see is from the treatment because it's in the same shape.

            The untreated areas surrounding the treatment sites are totally normal, but today, my treated areas are still red looking due to the laser.

            It has been nearly 5 weeks and I hoped to be healed now apart from PIH marks. Ideally, I wanted to see blanched, white skin by now, but this particular treatment seems to be taking much longer than all the others.

            My first two seemed to heal in around 3-4 weeks. I've always used vaseline to keep the skin moist. I have it on now as I write this.

            Has anyone else noted that it seems to take longer to heal with each subsequent treatment?

            Here's my video documenteing the days leading up to and after my November 15th Vbeam:



            Watch on YouTube
            I'm recovering from Mirvaso-induced skin damage. Ask me about it if you are too.


            T-Shirt: "Laser skin treatment. That's what it is if you're wondering. Yes, it hurt."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by darren1 View Post
              By the way, I had my previous Vbeam treatment on November 15th. It is now 21st December and I'm still not healed.

              The bruising has faded a LOT, but there are still obvious marks on my face where I had the treatment.

              If you didn't know I'd had laser, a person might just assume I've been in a fight or had an accident. The redness also resembles rosacea a little, and yet I know for a fact the redness I see is from the treatment because it's in the same shape.

              The untreated areas surrounding the treatment sites are totally normal, but today, my treated areas are still red looking due to the laser.

              It has been nearly 5 weeks and I hoped to be healed now apart from PIH marks. Ideally, I wanted to see blanched, white skin by now, but this particular treatment seems to be taking much longer than all the others.

              My first two seemed to heal in around 3-4 weeks. I've always used vaseline to keep the skin moist. I have it on now as I write this.

              Has anyone else noted that it seems to take longer to heal with each subsequent treatment?

              Here's my video documenteing the days leading up to and after my November 15th Vbeam:



              Watch on YouTube
              Yes I have noticed this after IPL and Vbeam treatments. This, in the end, is why even people with rosacea who initially find such treatments helpful, eventually quit having them. Prof Tony Chu also found medicines (i.e. moxonodine, clonidine, mirtazapine, hydroxychloroquine, atenolol, mepacrine etc) were a more reliable treatment for rosacea, although he did use laser as well.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by darren1 View Post
                It has been nearly 5 weeks and I hoped to be healed now apart from PIH marks. Ideally, I wanted to see blanched, white skin by now, but this particular treatment seems to be taking much longer than all the others.

                My first two seemed to heal in around 3-4 weeks. I've always used vaseline to keep the skin moist. I have it on now as I write this.

                Has anyone else noted that it seems to take longer to heal with each subsequent treatment?
                I have noticed that it takes me longer to heal after each treatment, but the doctor I've been seeing uses more energy on each treatment. The latest time he said he used the maximum settings, and I got two bruises on an upper cheek which have taken about 10 days to fade into a red marks. Most of the obvious spots where I was treated fade by the next day with paracetemol/acetaminophen and diphenhydramine. This latest time I have some general redness on cheeks and nose which is slowly fading over the last two weeks. Soaking with tranexamic acid solution seems to make the redness and bruises fade faster, but my dermatologist recommended against this due to lack of data and concerns about the integrity of the mixture.

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                • #9
                  Sorry to hijack this thread but i wanted to see if anyone could advise me about pdl.

                  Ive just had my third PDL (YAG) with bruising. ive developed this dark patch/ broken vein right under my right eye. I, and still do have quite a bit of background redness and flush quite badly but never had any broken veins before. I can also weirdly feel it on my face it kind of burns/stings ever so slightly. I do remember when the derm was zapping my face, the place where the vein has appeared was particularly painful during the procedure. ( im not sure if its sensitive spot just under the eye or if he went too close? could this be the reason?)

                  Has anyone ever encountered this as a side effect of PDL? I chose PDL as i thought it was the safest of lasers but have been really disappointed with how the treatment has turned out. Im about 2 half months post 3rd session and still have quite a lot of redness. (the bruising faded a while ago) Its maybe taken some redness away at the side of my face but my cheeks are still pretty red and i feel like I flush more now.

                  I would of stopped the treatment as its costly, the down time is long and the results have been really disappointing. But now i feel like I need to address this vein on my check that has appeared. I have a consultation in a couple of weeks, would anyone recommend having further treatment in removing the vein? im scared it could make it worse as the laser is the cause.

                  Has anyone heard of this happening before or could advice me on what to do this would be a big help! Thanks

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                  • #10
                    Pdl

                    The only thing I got from the yag laser is scars. It has a record of causing complications. It did nothing for my flushing. I have had success with vbeam perfecta. Over the years (yes years) I was being treated there have been several upgrades to this laser and each one gave me more clearance. I went from home bound to having almost no restrictions. I will still flush in very high temperatures but it resolves quickly once I'm out of the heat. I will emphasize that it is also very important to also find a doctor that has experience using this laser. There are a lot of doctors who have minimal experience With treating Rosacea, especially with lasers.Bad outcomes are often blamed on the laser when it's really the person using that laser.

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                    • #11
                      I can't advise about the specific side effect you're getting, but I agree with the suggestion to stay away from Nd:YAG. I think it made my flushing worse, it's not the optimal wavelength for destroying veins, and my dermatologist thinks it can cause angiogenesis. I've had good experiences with the latest Vbeam model operated by a specialized dermatologist, though it's important to take a cautious approach to any light-based treatment and to carefully evaluate the operator and the equipment he or she plans to use. With the doctor I'm seeing now, we worked slowly worked our way up to the maximum settings over 5 treatments, and using this approach I was able to get good results with minimal downtime and bruising.

                      Though my dermatologist doesn't approve of it, you might also want to look into topical tranexamic acid.

                      As an aside, unless I've misunderstood, Nd:YAG is not a PDL (there is no dye).

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                      • #12
                        Really appreciate both your replies. I think im going to stay away from the ND;YAG my experience has been really disappointing and both your testimonials also confirm that. it sounds like you've both had really good treatments with vbeam, I dont suppose you can recommend anyone around London? Were you both able to achieve your results without the usual 2-3 week bruising?

                        Thanks again.

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                        • #13
                          Sorry my doctor is in the states. I'm getting ready to see him for a treatment and I'll see if he can recommend someone there. In the past there has been a problem in the UK because a lot of doctors there do no have PDL because of the cost of the laser. But that was some time ago and maybe things have changed

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by joeychaps123 View Post
                            Really appreciate both your replies. I think im going to stay away from the ND;YAG my experience has been really disappointing and both your testimonials also confirm that. it sounds like you've both had really good treatments with vbeam, I dont suppose you can recommend anyone around London? Were you both able to achieve your results without the usual 2-3 week bruising?

                            Thanks again.
                            I would recommend Dr Sheth who works out of the Lister Hospital, and I believe will be back at Guy's and St Thomas in March.

                            I have seen him for 7 years, had multiple laser treatments, both bruising and non-bruising. He's very experienced and incredibly kind and compassionate.

                            Hope that helps.

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                            • #15
                              appreciate the replies! seb is Dr Seth private at lister hospiatel and nhs at guys? did you go private? i am going to look into this thanks alot!!

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