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  • J1992
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    Hello again,

    Id just like to add Emma I have been to my local GP about 4 times now since January.

    My GP is a skin specialist - he noted my redness but wasnt entirely such it was or could be Rosacea. I am an active bodybuilder & was hinting at that being a possible cause, I however am unsure as Champions such as Arnold Schwarzenger and others who lift far heavier than I do look perfectly normal and at ease, no redness etc.

    First time I was prescribed Metrogel.
    This didnt work, it acting like putting clean-film over you skin when it dried. If you opened your mouth it streched and flaked. Cant see how anybody could put that on twice a day.

    Second time I was prescribed Beta Blockers.
    I couldnt believe I was give these, 4x times a day, I thought that was alot, most people where advising me not too take them. They did however seem to work I think I was on 25mg x4, they made my extrematies very cold aka hands & feet as my blood flow was being reduced. I had a hard time staying still however. I ran out of my prescription just as I believe they where really kicking in so I never really managed to get full benefit from them.

    Final time - 3 weeks ago, I was precribed Tetracycline. ( I have no bumps, dryness only redness that extends from temples down to lower cheek with a diagonal line (Symetrical both sides) from nose to middle of Jaw). I dont really want to take this as its intended as Pimple / Inflamtion oral although I will take what ever is nessaary.

    - Diet dosent seem to be a factor at all, my diet is incredibly restricted in terms of variation so I was able to reduce everything and note the effects. Ive tried reducing wheat, fruits, protein, carbs in general. Ive stopped using wash powder, cold baths, sleeping with head raised, sleeping next to a fan e.t.c



    At the current moment im actually looking into proper breathing techniques, as like I said early I am a bodybuilder & during workouts I often hold my breath & cause a build up of systoic pressure (aka when people intentionally go red by holding breath). This may have ruptured / killed blood vessels & may have caused a clot which is why the redness is now permenant.

    Emma you may want to look into getting your blood checked aka a blood test - I really want to get mine done as a condition called 'Acidosis' could be our cause. It is when Blood is too acidic caused by eating too many acidic foods, it makes the red blood cells stick together causing blot clots which means redness basically. We could also have very high 'Haemoglobin levels' i.e too many red blood cells. (A lot of bodybuilder friends get this and have to regularly give blood to restore the balance). Having said that taking Steroids causing redness due to messing with hormones so that could be a cause although redness from steroids is full-facial & neck not isolated areas.

    P.s I personally believe Spicy foods triggered the continual worsing of my redness back when I only had a very faint darkening of my cheeks. Stay clear of that.

    Cheers,
    Joe.
    Last edited by J1992; 28 March 2012, 06:40 PM.

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  • Shan
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    The Rosacea/Sulphite Allergy link

    Hi,
    In 2010, I went to an allergy specialist who also studied dermatology, because I was suffering from acne roseacea and suspectd a food allergy. I was offically diagnosed with a Sulphite allergy and produce anti-histamine and an allergic response (-although a lot of stuff on the 'net implies this is unusal) In hind-sight I had been suffering for a number of years, I just didn't know what the cause was.
    I was also told I had Roseacea.
    Let me make myself clear, this is not a mis-diagnosis, as I had originally been diagnosed with Roseacea by my GP. I have 2 complaints. However, I do notice that my Roseacea is linked to my allergy, as at times, the redness seems to tie-in with an allergic response to food. Some Roseacea products contain sulphates/sulphites, so I have to avoid those. I would be interested to hear from others who suspect a link.

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  • Brady Barrows
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    Originally posted by emlarkin View Post
    I'm 16 and I've had this problem develop from about 8 years old. My mum keeps saying she doesn't think it is rosacea but it's getting worse. What do you think? I am so sick of looking orange when I cover it up with makeup.

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    Might want to get a second opinion from a dermatologist since I doubt if Mom is qualified to make such a determination (unless she is a physician?). It is important to rule out other skin conditions which mimic rosacea. Diagnosing rosacea, as this thread is pointing out isn't as straight forward and simple as some are led to believe.

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  • emlarkin
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    Same for me, the worst is in the evening, usually gets really hot and red almost like it's burning. When it's not so red there are white splotches in between but if its flushing then it completely covers my cheeks and sometimes under my chin. No my face doesn't sweat really. I would say it is rosacea as looking at some of the seborrhoeic dermatitis information, it is not affected by diet whereas I get worse when eating hot food like curries or too many fatty foods.

    It is generally best first thing in the morning but as soon as I get too hot I will flush for hours after. So embarrassing and no one understands that I'm NOT blushing! It's good to know other people understand here.

    Emma

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  • J1992
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    Emlarkin, you skin is red in exactly the same areas as mine. Im 19 years old, male but my skin is a complete red mass where as yours seems to have small white areas around your redness.

    Im in two minds as to whether I have Rosace or Sebbhoric dematisis, my face is cold at 2am to 6am, feels normal no tingling, or heat, cold & normal. I believe thats due to the body temperature decreasing naturally at that time, worst is 6pm to 11pm. Do you feel the same?

    I also dont sweat on my face anymore :?

    Joe.

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  • emlarkin
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    I'm 16 and I've had this problem develop from about 8 years old. My mum keeps saying she doesn't think it is rosacea but it's getting worse. What do you think? I am so sick of looking orange when I cover it up with makeup.

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  • adinat
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    What to believe?

    I was originally told I had rosacea then told I didn't! My derm sent me to a medical derm (after about 4 laser trts.) who ordered a 24hr urine panel to check for multiple problems. He said everything was normal, that I "just fkush" He did rec. I start trying Cetirizine 10/day for a week, then increase 1 pill a week for 4 weeks. So week 4 I would be taking 40mg a day for 1 week. I have not done this. Afraid I will be too tired.

    I have had 6 non purpuric treatments. Vbeam and Gemini. . My doctor said I can schedule every 6 weeks! That it is not necessary to wait. Whether or not I'm improving I don't know. I don't know if I am having rebound flushing or the regular flushing . I have had the past 3 treatments close together so I don't know....There are so many questions with this enitre treatment , it is so frustrating. I did have an improvement after the laser for many months but I noticed it happening and I went back. My derm left so now I see the director of the practice who has changed the treat to Vbeam and Excel. I had 2 treatment so far and i have another appt Fri. He recomends trying 4 -6 trts. 4 weeks apart. So far, no improvement. I still flush somedays, some mild, some severe. I could not get a straight answer from him about whether this is "rebound flushing" or I just STILL flushing! I feel confused because if you read in these forums it says..WAIT bet. treatments, you need to heal?? But he is rec. them close together??? Any advice. Thanks

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  • John111
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    Has anyone got similiar symptoms to me as i cant seem to diagnose my condition.

    Hi im 25 years old and have a condition which came on around adolence.I have constant red cheeks that cover the whole area of cheeks and have a red nose.this redness started out as light pink and has now become permanent and the color is now dark red.I am very sensitive to hot/cold and my face can burn with me having a malar complexion.I also get red rashes on upper body, arms and around knees.My skin can also become red when exposed to heat and alcohol makes the flushing and redness a lot worse.I also have constant redness in side of eyes and redness can become worse while looking at a screen for too long or rubbing them as sometimes i feel like there is sand in my eyes.My vision has also become blurred.I also suffer from excessive sweating and sweat during light exertion, walking.
    I also experience sharp sudden pains in my chest when i breath in deeply and i have to change my body position and take small breathes and they pass.I can also get pains in my lungs and these csan also be sharp too.Occasionaly i get sharp paralazing pains in rectum and these can be quite intense and pass after a few seconds.

    My theory is that call these symptoms relate to an auto immune disease.I have been to a endoconologist and he tested me for carcinoid cancer and pheos which are adrealan tumours.He tested my urine with 24hr tests and my thyroids and both came back fine.Last week i also went to get tested for diabietes and the nurse said that the blood tests, test for thyroids and covered everything.
    My question is would lupus show up on a standard blood test for diabietes or on a thyroid test or is there any specific test for lupus.Also can anyone help me with my condition and does anyone know if my symptoms are like lupus or an auto immume disease?I dont have any pastules, raised skin or red spots on face , my skin is smooth but red and can become imflammed on exposure to hot and my complexion can become much redder on exposure to cold.I also have a shy personality and can flush easily.
    The only time my cheeks turns pale is when i feel sick or when ive taken stimulants like speed and mdma.does anyone know why this is?is this a hormonal problem or does anyone know a supplement that will help with the redness.i just have red cheeks with a red nose,redness on neck and upper body wit no bumps or roughness.any help would b welcome as i dont know why i turn pale.Any replies would be welcome.

    Thanks

    John

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  • YoungPain
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    Hi everyone
    I'm still not completely convinced that I have rosacea, but figured that what better place to find closure then a forum dedicated to rosacea
    Background info:
    17 year old male, asian and white, face has always been on the fair side, but always nicely tanned, super pale now since having acne (3 years and going)
    My face has always had a tendency to blush, but now it is worse than ever. My face flushes when I am embarrassed, too warm and is sensitive to the sun (only within the last 6 months or so), have these little flesh colored bumps on my face, some have tiny black dots in them,, not a whole lot maybe half a dozen on the lower half of my face.
    I took doxycline(sp?) for a month and retin a micro for a 6month span for acne. I guess it was all downhill after that.
    Another thing: I don't feel a stinging or burning sensation when I flush, I mean I am aware that my face feels hot, but other times I'll have blushed without even realizing it and shocked at seeing myself in the mirror. I don't see any broken capillaries either so..?

    I'd really like some help here as it's not easy dealing with this as a 17 year old already with an acne condition and high school environment!
    Last edited by YoungPain; 26 November 2011, 06:33 AM.

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  • vikinghammer2
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    awesome, thanks amethystice. now i gotta go google pustules and papules cause i don't know what that is either

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  • amethystice215
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    Originally posted by vikinghammer2 View Post
    sorry for the nebbie question for i am new here but what does p&p stand for?
    it stands for pustules and papules

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  • vikinghammer2
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    sorry for the nebbie question for i am new here but what does p&p stand for?

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  • GiGi.
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    Originally posted by Brady Barrows View Post

    Frank Powell, M.D.
    Consultant Dermatologist
    Regional Centre of Dermatology
    Mater Misericordiae Hospital
    Dublin, Ireland
    Leading European authority on rosacea
    Thank you Brady Barrows.

    This dermatologist I hadn't heard of yet. I will contact him to see if he does tests for underlying illnesses...

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  • Brady Barrows
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    Originally posted by GiGi. View Post
    I have never had any specific blood tests nor other check ups done, though I have some other symptoms. (Fatigue, foggy brain and digestive issues.)

    I am wondering, who do you ask to run those tests?

    My NHS GP didn't show any interest/knowledge, and the private dermatologist I consulted seems to be not aware of any tests neither...

    If someone who lives in the UK is reading this thread, I would greatly appreciate recommendations for a good private GP/specialist doctor who does run these kind of tests and is willing to investigate possible underlying illnesses.

    Many thanks.
    Two recommendations:

    Professor Tony Chu, FRCP
    West London Dermatology Centre
    227-229 Chiswick High Road, Chiswick, W4 2DW

    Frank Powell, M.D.
    Consultant Dermatologist
    Regional Centre of Dermatology
    Mater Misericordiae Hospital
    Dublin, Ireland
    Leading European authority on rosacea

    Also these posts:

    What to ask my physician?

    What should I know about diagnosing rosacea?
    Last edited by Brady Barrows; 20 June 2011, 08:53 AM.

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  • GiGi.
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    I have never had any specific blood tests nor other check ups done, though I have some other symptoms. (Fatigue, foggy brain and digestive issues.)

    I am wondering, who do you ask to run those tests?

    My NHS GP didn't show any interest/knowledge, and the private dermatologist I consulted seems to be not aware of any tests neither...

    If someone who lives in the UK is reading this thread, I would greatly appreciate recommendations for a good private GP/specialist doctor who does run these kind of tests and is willing to investigate possible underlying illnesses.

    Many thanks.

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