Vitamins/Supplements

[Carly1981]

I've read that various vitamins are known to help alleviate some rosacea symptoms (yes, I know they don't solve everything on their own).

So far I see a lot on the following: Zinc, Vitamin D, Omega 3, Probiotics, and Evening Primrose.
I'm confused about B3 and B12 - I *think* one has caused people to breakout. Which one?

I was also wondering if any of the above are bad to use simultaneously? I'd like to start a vitamin regimen, but I want to be sure the things I take won't cancel each other out. Currently I'm using Hum Nutrition's 'Daily Cleanse' supplemints but they're not doing anything for me (after almost 4 weeks), so I don't know if I want to invest in another bottle...I know at least six weeks are required, but their products are a bit pricey.

[Gazek]

Hey Carly,

One thing that I can tell you is if you say, did a 2 weeks cleanse with an Apple Cider Vinegar drink, AND were taking a probiotic, it's a bit too much acidity for the stomach and gut flora (might get bad gas). So if you were thinking of doing an ACV cleanse, do it before taking a probiotic. Or, just do 1 or the other. Your mileage may vary. There isn't much science around this as much as it is experience (me included lol). I know you didn't ask about ACV but just as an example regarding interactions.

Vitamin B12 (found naturally in animal protein) interacts with Vitamin C. It renders the B12 essentially useless. B12 beneficial to immune system support, which is why some vegetarians or especially vegans take B12 supplements (altho B12 is being added to soy now).

Vitamin E also interacts with Vitamin C, by oxidizing it [Vitamin E]. This is when taking the supplements separately, not in say a multivitamin.

You can also add Magnesium to your list, I personally take 350mg. I take everything you mentioned above but in a multivitamin, minus the probiotic and fish oil. I am thinking of adding Vitamin D3 to my list of daily pills as well though, as I am a hermit.

Most probiotics actually take 12 weeks to show effects externally, but you should have noticed some benefits internally by now [better stool, less gut irritation, gas, etc]. Like all supplements, every person is different. Could simply be the wrong product for you. The one I take has one review that says 'This pill changed my life, I struggled for 15 years...' it goes on. Then there is another saying it did nothing and after finishing the bottle he/she wants their money back lol. Unfortunately it can be an expensive, time consuming trial and error.

[Carly1981]

Hey Carly,

One thing that I can tell you is if you say, did a 2 weeks cleanse with an Apple Cider Vinegar drink, AND were taking a probiotic, it's a bit too much acidity for the stomach and gut flora (might get bad gas). So if you were thinking of doing an ACV cleanse, do it before taking a probiotic. Or, just do 1 or the other. Your mileage may vary. There isn't much science around this as much as it is experience (me included lol). I know you didn't ask about ACV but just as an example regarding interactions.

Vitamin B12 (found naturally in animal protein) interacts with Vitamin C. It renders the B12 essentially useless. B12 beneficial to immune system support, which is why some vegetarians or especially vegans take B12 supplements (altho B12 is being added to soy now).

Vitamin E also interacts with Vitamin C, by oxidizing it [Vitamin E]. This is when taking the supplements separately, not in say a multivitamin.

You can also add Magnesium to your list, I personally take 350mg. I take everything you mentioned above but in a multivitamin, minus the probiotic and fish oil. I am thinking of adding Vitamin D3 to my list of daily pills as well though, as I am a hermit.

Most probiotics actually take 12 weeks to show effects externally, but you should have noticed some benefits internally by now [better stool, less gut irritation, gas, etc]. Like all supplements, every person is different. Could simply be the wrong product for you. The one I take has one review that says 'This pill changed my life, I struggled for 15 years...' it goes on. Then there is another saying it did nothing and after finishing the bottle he/she wants their money back lol. Unfortunately it can be an expensive, time consuming trial and error.

Wow! Thank you so much for all the info, Gazek. I've been a bit of a hermit(ess) too, thanks to a recent flare up. :P

I really should give ACV a try. I had a horrible experience with it last October after using it as a toner. *eep* Long story short, even the smell of apple cider vinegar makes my skin twitchy. I'm guessing that you're mixing it with water or tea? Have you noticed an improvement in your skin?


Also, may I ask what multivitamin you're taking? I'd rather buy a brand that's actually been used by someone with rosacea - some web site vitamin reviews are too fluffy.

I really...really wanted the Hum Nutrition supplements to work (not just because of the price). I am a sucker for rave reviews (*see above*), and people are gushing over their products. That said, I don't think they've done anything bad to my skin and they are filled with good stuff so, no harm done. When I'm through with the bottle, I'll start taking evening primrose again, if only because it's such a lovely name. ;) And I'll definitely look into magnesium.

Thanks again!

[Gazek]

Wow! Thank you so much for all the info, Gazek. I've been a bit of a hermit(ess) too, thanks to a recent flare up. :P

I really should give ACV a try. I had a horrible experience with it last October after using it as a toner. *eep* Long story short, even the smell of apple cider vinegar makes my skin twitchy. I'm guessing that you're mixing it with water or tea? Have you noticed an improvement in your skin?


Also, may I ask what multivitamin you're taking? I'd rather buy a brand that's actually been used by someone with rosacea - some web site vitamin reviews are too fluffy.

I really...really wanted the Hum Nutrition supplements to work (not just because of the price). I am a sucker for rave reviews (*see above*), and people are gushing over their products. That said, I don't think they've done anything bad to my skin and they are filled with good stuff so, no harm done. When I'm through with the bottle, I'll start taking evening primrose again, if only because it's such a lovely name. ;) And I'll definitely look into magnesium.

Thanks again!

I never did ACV, well I did 3 times. I realized the stuff I had was the one that has no benefits (clear liquid used in cooking, heavily processed). My country flag says Canada but I am actually in Spain right now. I couldn't find the Bragg's stuff or anything like it. I'm sure its here, I just don't know where to look as I am just a visitor. To answer your question, I was mixing it with water and drinking it - My skin is so dry, raw, sensitive and controlling the p&p is such a challenge - I wouldn't dare use it topically unless a trusted medical professional told me to. I have such a bad time with topicals (even medications, let alone some new internet craze lol).

My multi is Lambert's Multi-guard Sport Performance. It has all the things I was looking for, to some extent. When I get home I will be adding a different Zinc and the D3. There are many kinds of minerals (Magnesium has 9 kinds, Zinc has 7) so its important to try and find the right one for the condition we are trying to fix. However, most of the time a Magnesium and Zinc Oxide is perfectly fine. If I am nit picking, I would prefer a Zinc Sulfate or Gluconate.

I belive that Lamberts is discontinued. I live in a small farming village about 2 hours from Madrid, so you can only image the mark up on products for the 1 mineral shop in our town.

Regarding supplements, remember that every body is different. What works for me, may upset your stomach or make you feel terrible. This can be said for pretty much everything in life. Food, supplements, cosmetics, etc. As a rosacean you know the struggle of finding cosmetics that work for you, when many people say "perfect for my rosacea".

As for the price of vitamins. The cheapest stuff, is the worst. You really need to shell out some coin for the quality minerals. The lowest priced stuff has the cheapest, easiest to produce minerals and often uses something like, 3000% the Vitamin B you need because it's cheap, people assume Vitamin B is the only thing that boosts an immune system, and it acts as a nice bonding agent (thats why the pills are sometimes yellow and thus make your urine the same color). A quality product should not make you feel any worse, or change the color of your urine. The yellow or yellow-green urine color is from excess riboflavin (loads of B2) when really what you want is a nice balance between all the minerals.

Finding products that work, combined with a diet that works, is so stressful. When I wake up in the night to eat, use the washroom, or just cant sleep, my mind starts racing and I'm up for HOURS, of course the stress just makes everything worse. I wish I could flip a switch in my head that just made me say "keep eating clean, take your supps, and who gives a sh*t" - but I can't, been trying for years!

If you have any more questions, shoot!

[Violetsareblue]

I've read that various vitamins are known to help alleviate some rosacea symptoms (yes, I know they don't solve everything on their own).

So far I see a lot on the following: Zinc, Vitamin D, Omega 3, Probiotics, and Evening Primrose.
I'm confused about B3 and B12 - I *think* one has caused people to breakout. Which one?

I was also wondering if any of the above are bad to use simultaneously? I'd like to start a vitamin regimen, but I want to be sure the things I take won't cancel each other out. Currently I'm using Hum Nutrition's 'Daily Cleanse' supplemints but they're not doing anything for me (after almost 4 weeks), so I don't know if I want to invest in another bottle...I know at least six weeks are required, but their products are a bit pricey.

One thing that comes to my mind reading your post is, from my experiences its good to start with one supplement at the time. So for example start with zink and do that for a week, evaluate how your body reacts and then add the next etc. Then you at least sort of know the emmediate reactions of your body to s certain supplement. As we all know it often takes a lot of time for the body to respond. If you start going for a coctail of supplements its really hard to examine your reactions and to find a good long term supplement routine.

I am still working on mine! I take vitamin D and zink atm, planning to add more gradually. But I want to see how my I am effected first. Did you know that white spots that some people have on their nails (I do) are because of low zink? I realized a few months back so now I am taking that!

Hope this helps!

[Gazek]

One thing that comes to my mind reading your post is, from my experiences its good to start with one supplement at the time. So for example start with zink and do that for a week, evaluate how your body reacts and then add the next etc. Then you at least sort of know the emmediate reactions of your body to s certain supplement. As we all know it often takes a lot of time for the body to respond. If you start going for a coctail of supplements its really hard to examine your reactions and to find a good long term supplement routine.

I am still working on mine! I take vitamin D and zink atm, planning to add more gradually. But I want to see how my I am effected first. Did you know that white spots that some people have on their nails (I do) are because of low zink? I realized a few months back so now I am taking that!

Hope this helps!

Hey Violet,

How much Zinc a day? 15, 30, 50? (I think 50 is max one should take unless directed by a physician). I have those white things on my nails, and terrible nails in general. I take 15 of zinc oxide, just the one that comes in my multi.

[Carly1981]

I never did ACV, well I did 3 times. I realized the stuff I had was the one that has no benefits (clear liquid used in cooking, heavily processed). My country flag says Canada but I am actually in Spain right now. I couldn't find the Bragg's stuff or anything like it. I'm sure its here, I just don't know where to look as I am just a visitor. To answer your question, I was mixing it with water and drinking it - My skin is so dry, raw, sensitive and controlling the p&p is such a challenge - I wouldn't dare use it topically unless a trusted medical professional told me to. I have such a bad time with topicals (even medications, let alone some new internet craze lol).

My multi is Lambert's Multi-guard Sport Performance. It has all the things I was looking for, to some extent. When I get home I will be adding a different Zinc and the D3. There are many kinds of minerals (Magnesium has 9 kinds, Zinc has 7) so its important to try and find the right one for the condition we are trying to fix. However, most of the time a Magnesium and Zinc Oxide is perfectly fine. If I am nit picking, I would prefer a Zinc Sulfate or Gluconate.

I belive that Lamberts is discontinued. I live in a small farming village about 2 hours from Madrid, so you can only image the mark up on products for the 1 mineral shop in our town.

Regarding supplements, remember that every body is different. What works for me, may upset your stomach or make you feel terrible. This can be said for pretty much everything in life. Food, supplements, cosmetics, etc. As a rosacean you know the struggle of finding cosmetics that work for you, when many people say "perfect for my rosacea".

As for the price of vitamins. The cheapest stuff, is the worst. You really need to shell out some coin for the quality minerals. The lowest priced stuff has the cheapest, easiest to produce minerals and often uses something like, 3000% the Vitamin B you need because it's cheap, people assume Vitamin B is the only thing that boosts an immune system, and it acts as a nice bonding agent (thats why the pills are sometimes yellow and thus make your urine the same color). A quality product should not make you feel any worse, or change the color of your urine. The yellow or yellow-green urine color is from excess riboflavin (loads of B2) when really what you want is a nice balance between all the minerals.

Finding products that work, combined with a diet that works, is so stressful. When I wake up in the night to eat, use the washroom, or just cant sleep, my mind starts racing and I'm up for HOURS, of course the stress just makes everything worse. I wish I could flip a switch in my head that just made me say "keep eating clean, take your supps, and who gives a sh*t" - but I can't, been trying for years!

If you have any more questions, shoot!

Thanks again!

I found another Lamberts multi-vitamin on Amazon, but it's probably a bit differen than the sports version : https://www.amazon.com/Lamberts-L084.../dp/B003FGEAMU

Have you tried / or heard about liquid Zinc? I read somewhere (maybe on this forum) that it helped with rosacea and, because it's liquid, it's absorbed into the body a lot faster. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SOV1YA...=I8WQM3NMFYBHP
However, I'm not sure if this taking this form of Zinc would be too much if it's taken with a multivitamin that already has zinc.

As violetsareblue suggested, I'll probably start with one vitamin at a time - maybe D, once I'm done with the primrose oil (which I still have high hopes for!).

Bragg's really is the best + purist ACV. My own bad experience with using it as a toner aside, it has a ton of benefits, and it's not that expensive. Maybe you could find it where you are on Amazon?

This is probably a dumb question but is ACV basically a probiotic? I've read that it helps with digestion and gut health, but I don't see it listed in some probiotic capsules.

Also, have you looked into the new "it" vitamin called Ritual? It sounds so promising - but possibly too good to be true: https://ritual.com

Thank you for the tips!

[Carly1981]

One thing that comes to my mind reading your post is, from my experiences its good to start with one supplement at the time. So for example start with zink and do that for a week, evaluate how your body reacts and then add the next etc. Then you at least sort of know the emmediate reactions of your body to s certain supplement. As we all know it often takes a lot of time for the body to respond. If you start going for a coctail of supplements its really hard to examine your reactions and to find a good long term supplement routine.

I am still working on mine! I take vitamin D and zink atm, planning to add more gradually. But I want to see how my I am effected first. Did you know that white spots that some people have on their nails (I do) are because of low zink? I realized a few months back so now I am taking that!

Hope this helps!

Thanks, Violetsareblue!

You're right about not jumping into too many things at once (something I tend to do a little too often).
There are so many vitamins that claim to be skin-friendly, I'm not sure where to begin. Shoving all of them into a multivitamin seemed like an easy way to solve the problem but with fussy skin, that's probably a bad idea.

I have half a bottle of primrose oil supplements that I'll start taking again once my Hum bottle is finished. After that I'll maybe go with a vitamin D and begin taking a TBSP of ACV with water. Zinc is defiantly on my list, too!

[Gazek]

This is probably a dumb question but is ACV basically a probiotic?

It's not classified as a probiotic as it doesn't add any healthy bacteria to the gut, but it aids in digestion similar to a probiotic.

I have such a surplus of vitamins right now, I am going to finish them off which will be right around the same time I get home, and I will consult my physician and take it from there.

I unfortunately skewed my results by adding a night cream for the first time ever. Normally I use my day cream, which doesn't have SPF (I prefer to apply them separately since sunscreen burns my face off). Well my test patches worked great, but then when I did my cheeks it destroyed my face. So I can't say yet what minerals are really helping until this p&p + dry skin flare up dies down over the coming weeks.

[bakersmt]

One thing that comes to my mind reading your post is, from my experiences its good to start with one supplement at the time. So for example start with zink and do that for a week, evaluate how your body reacts and then add the next etc. Then you at least sort of know the emmediate reactions of your body to s certain supplement. As we all know it often takes a lot of time for the body to respond. If you start going for a coctail of supplements its really hard to examine your reactions and to find a good long term supplement routine.

I am still working on mine! I take vitamin D and zink atm, planning to add more gradually. But I want to see how my I am effected first. Did you know that white spots that some people have on their nails (I do) are because of low zink? I realized a few months back so now I am taking that!

Hope this helps!

I agree 100%. A vitamin could have something in it that you react badly too and you should be careful of that. Especially if you have a gluten/ sugar/ soy or other issue that you may not be aware of. Rosacea is an autoimmune issue and so is a food allergy. As my doctors love to point out the autoimmune issues love to show up in groups.

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[Elwoodyn]

What do you guys think about B3 and B12, B12? I've heard they are more commonly associated with breakouts, but it depends on the individual. What would you say?