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  • Snegovik
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    I would say it looks like seb derm, but you don`t have much...I sometimes saw seb derm flaring while on accutane, and then slow down or dissapear when off the accutane.
    With this mild case I think I would try the honey treatment if I were you.

    I see in your first post that you said accutane only worked against oily skin while on it. From what I can see on your photos now, your skin is not oily at all?

    Regards
    Snegovik

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  • OilKing
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    Hi guys,
    I went to a different derm today and he said I have steroid induced perioal dermatitis - prescribed me Finacea. The other derm said I had flat out seborrheic dermatitis but she didn't really listen to my story about the steroid usage well this derm did. So i'll see how the finacea goes I guess

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  • bellableu
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    Originally posted by OilKing View Post
    ANYWAYS lol.

    Here are some more pictures from today - the apple cider vinegar has brought down the pustules quite a bit, and subsided the redness somewhat as well. You can see how dry it the rash can get as well from these pictures. Anymore opinions on if its seborrheic dermatitis/perioral dermatitis/steroid induced rosacea etc. Thanks a lot for your help guys!

    LOL - sorry for the earlier diversions.

    I'm just making a semi-educated guess here, but I would think that if vinegar has improved your condition, you may be dealing with at least *some* seb derm. Vinegar is anti-fungal.

    If you have already tried honey as a mask or cleanser, I'm sorry I missed it - but if you haven't, please do give it a try! Many people have had success treating seb derm using honey & coconut oil. Still others have found honey helpful for rosacea (myself included) - so it might be a big help to you either way!

    Good luck!

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  • OilKing
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    Oh, and heres a picture of the somewhat blotchy red patch of my cheek. It kind of looks like faint spider veins forming - I think it may be damage caused from the flushing episodes I've gone through. Just below the red patch there is also faint light brown spots, these also formed post accutane/during steroid use. Also mysterious....
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  • OilKing
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    ANYWAYS lol.

    Here are some more pictures from today - the apple cider vinegar has brought down the pustules quite a bit, and subsided the redness somewhat as well. You can see how dry it the rash can get as well from these pictures. Anymore opinions on if its seborrheic dermatitis/perioral dermatitis/steroid induced rosacea etc. Thanks a lot for your help guys!
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  • phlika29
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    Originally posted by IanW View Post
    Hey, your not even trying to understand what I've been saying.
    Ian people do understand what you are getting at and as Mistica pointed out it is a very common problem for rosaceans. I for one spent many years trying to convince friends and family that what I had wasn't normal, different feel normal nor look normal. Having said that you shouldnt project your feelings onto other members or purposely take a comment out of context. I do not wish to take this thread any further off topic. This is Oilking;s thread and he is asking for help to treat his condition.

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  • phlika29
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    Originally posted by OilKing View Post
    The flushing has definitely decreased over the past weeks since stopping the steroid ointment. I'm hoping the rashes will follow over the next few months. I'm hoping its period dermatitis, or steroid induced dermatitis, rather than seb derm - as Ive heard seb derm is a life long condition. Only time will tell. I've been using apple cider vinegar for the past week and there's been an 80% improvement in the rashes, so at least I have something to keep them at bay while I wait for my skin to readjust to being steroid-less. I have a derm appointment soon and am hoping to get a prescription for finacea, as I hear this is helpful for what I'm going through.

    Thanks for the input though, guys.
    Ill keep you all posted over the next few months with pictures if things improve/return to normal.
    Oilking

    I am glad to hear that things have not been too bad since stopping the steroid cream. I do think you need to be prepared for some up and downs before things finally settle.

    In the past members that have used steroids for an extended period often experienced remissions and flairs with some finding it better to taper off the steroid cream or make use of systemic antibiotics to keep things under control. Having said that I dont think you have used steroids for that long so hopefully it will calm down quickly.

    If it is perioral dermatitis you need to be careful about using any face cream, face wash and even toothpaste. I have found that the best way to avoid flairs is to just wash with water and leave it bare.

    Hang in there

    Sarah

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  • Mistica
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    Originally posted by IanW View Post
    Hey, your not even trying to understand what I've been saying.
    I think I understand.

    You feel upset when you try to explain to people about rosacea and when they take a look and you happen to only be a bit pink on that day, they immediately pass it off as nothing of importance? And you simply want them to understand what you go through is not normal? You want them to acknowledge, you have a problem, without them saying "Oh it isn't so bad" and being really flippant about it as if it weren't an issue at all?

    Please correct me if I have misunderstood.

    Sometimes the context can be lost when there is only the written word to go by. People can jump to the wrong idea.

    And just for the record, if you read enough posts, one of the top complaints is the concerns of rosaceans being brushed off by the public at large. Families can be the worse offenders. Your point is valid ( if I have understood it correctly).

    On the other hand, there are those who sometimes feel they look rather worse than they are, and a little reminder to keep things in perspective can be helpful.

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  • IanW
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    Hey, your not even trying to understand what I've been saying.

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  • bellableu
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    Originally posted by IanW View Post
    Hey, I'm not making stuff out of nothing and I never said that you implied that he didn't need to treat it. I'm just tired of people telling other people their face doesn't look bad when there's obviously a problem with there skin. It happened to me all the time and I absolutely hated it. OK? That's all I'm saying.
    So you would prefer that no one else hear an encouraging word or gain some perspective about THEIR appearance because you personally don't want to hear it about yours? It's not all about you. Some people come here because they need the encouragement and perspective - it helps them to know their skin condition doesn't appear as dramatically bad to others as it does to them. If you don't need or want that, that's fine, but why should you dictate what is and is not acceptable to others here?

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  • OilKing
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    The flushing has definitely decreased over the past weeks since stopping the steroid ointment. I'm hoping the rashes will follow over the next few months. I'm hoping its period dermatitis, or steroid induced dermatitis, rather than seb derm - as Ive heard seb derm is a life long condition. Only time will tell. I've been using apple cider vinegar for the past week and there's been an 80% improvement in the rashes, so at least I have something to keep them at bay while I wait for my skin to readjust to being steroid-less. I have a derm appointment soon and am hoping to get a prescription for finacea, as I hear this is helpful for what I'm going through.

    Thanks for the input though, guys.
    Ill keep you all posted over the next few months with pictures if things improve/return to normal.

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  • IanW
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    Originally posted by phlika29 View Post
    I think you need to stop picking on people and start trying to help. I have no idea what you are going on about. Did I say that he didnt have a problem? Did I say that he didnt need to treat it?

    Stop trying to make something out of nothing.
    Hey, I'm not making stuff out of nothing and I never said that you implied that he didn't need to treat it. I'm just tired of people telling other people their face doesn't look bad when there's obviously a problem with there skin. It happened to me all the time and I absolutely hated it. OK? That's all I'm saying.

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  • phlika29
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    Originally posted by IanW View Post
    But we get that from everybody every day, from parents, family, friends. Skin stilll looks good to them but not to me, you know because it's not "normal" anymore like it used to be before rosacea. Here I expected people especially mods to be more sensible?
    I think you need to stop picking on people and start trying to help. I have no idea what you are going on about. Did I say that he didnt have a problem? Did I say that he didnt need to treat it?

    Stop trying to make something out of nothing.

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  • nat007
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    Hi,

    just my thoughts: I think you do have seb derm. I have completely similar rashes when I have a seb derm flare: red with scaly bits here and there and the skin seems dry there and the structure of the skin is a bit raised or raw looking and reddish. If you scratch over it with your nail, do small scales of skin come off? Then it is very likely seb derm, although the scales are not always present. Also, your rash is on the exact seb derm area's: around the nose, on the nostrils of the nose and around the mouth and the chin. It can also manifest itself in your eyebrows and on the bridge in between the eyebrows.

    I think you are wise to stop with the stroid cream. Ketoconazolcream is indeed the cream to try now I think. If it is seb derm, it will lighten up within a week or so often. Be careful with yeast (bread etc) and sugar, it will worsen it most likely.

    You can actually get rosacea from steroid use, even from very short term steroid cream... I got full blown rosacea from 3 days of use, and my rosacea specialist has some patients with similar experiences. However, most people who are not predisposed to it (and don't have the sensitive and fair skin), usually need long term use of steroid cream on the facial skin to get steroid induced rosacea.

    How often do you flush? Do you flush all over your face, or on your cheeks or just your nose?
    I would defo try the ketoconazol first, IF you have rosacea, which is not sure imo, it won't worsen it at least. Then look if the flushing calms down as well..

    Best wishes Natalja

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  • IanW
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    Originally posted by oilking View Post
    p.s i think it was very nice of you to say it doesn't look too bad
    lol

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