Who has had Vitamin D Levels Checked?

[mattdog323]

Originally Posted by Mistica

From the Biochemist:

"All of the available measurements for inflammation are designed for acute infections like septicemia or tonsillitis. Most measure the body's accommodation, e.g. by producing CRP, to the stress of large scale infection. These are poor measures of local infections or low level chronic infection. High sensitivity CRP is a strange measurement of very low levels of CRP. This is strange to me, because CRP is a threshold response and reflects when the switch is thrown signifying major problems. There is no CRP produced in response to low, but disease-causing levels of inflammation. As far as I know, there are no good measures for more limited inflammation and that is why diet-based inflammation is not detected until it results in other diseases, such as obesity, metabolic syndrome, allergies, depression, ADHD, etc.

Cryptic bacteria cause low levels of local inflammation and also suppress the immune system. There are no blood tests for these bacteria, hence their name, cryptic.

Your faces can reveal severe problems, but the insensitive blood tests won't respond unless the problem spreads to your brain or liver. Most of the typical inflammatory cytokines are heparin-binding proteins that are rapidly removed from blood by binding to tissue surfaces. If your rosacea was bad enough to register in blood tests, you would already be hospitalized by your symptoms.

The omega-3s reduce the global inflammation that causes autoimmune and degenerative diseases. In terms of arbitrary numbers, systemic inflammation higher than 50 causes disease, but the blood tests can't detect anything below 50. Most people are walking around with inflammation at about 20 and they occasionally get sore throats that will spike it over 50 and maybe up to 200-300. As we as age, for some unknown reason, the inflammation rises up to the 50 level and people accumulate degenerative diseases. With an anti-inflammatory diet, the level is kept below 50 even into old age. I am just putting numbers on my idea of how it works, since the current tests are too crude to respond to meaningful levels of chronic inflammation.

I hope that this helps. This is the way that I think about it."

I swear ive read this stuff word for word before in certain books,Im just curious to Google where your infos coming from,Its very misleading not knowing the source

Thanks!

[Mistica]

I speak with an ex Harvard biochemist on a daily basis, which you know.
You can't google private emails.

He spends considerable time researching based on known science pertaining to rosacea and related biological processes. In addition he takes into account the personal symptoms and observations made by rosaceans on forums.

Why should any of this be misleading?

He works in his own way.

[Mistica]

Ahoy Dan!

Are you around?

[mattdog323]

Originally Posted by Mistica

I speak with an ex Harvard biochemist on a daily basis, which you know.
You can't google private emails.

He spends considerable time researching based on known science pertaining to rosacea and related biological processes. In addition he takes into account the personal symptoms and observations made by rosaceans on forums.

Why should any of this be misleading?

He works in his own way.

misleading not knowing his name I'm curious on googling him not ur private talks,

Whats his name??
Thanks!

[iDan]

Hi Mistica,

Yes, I'm around. Work is hectic so I have't had time to read through the posts much this week. I'll check in tomorrow. Any specific questions?

How are you doing?

[Mistica]

Originally Posted by iDan

Hi Mistica,

Yes, I'm around. Work is hectic so I have't had time to read through the posts much this week. I'll check in tomorrow. Any specific questions?

How are you doing?

Hi Dan,

I do appreciate your coming back to the forum to help us, even though rosacea is distant memory for you now.

My question was posted on the previous page. About capillaries.

In addition to this, I have had a return of bad nose flushing and it starts as soon as I put foot out of bed. The rest of my face is not doing too badly, but the nose flushing is driving me crazy. It takes ages to cool it down with a covered ice pack, where as previous to my 8400IU dose, it rarely flushed badly upon getting up and any slight flush would dissipate with around 30 secs of ice pack application. I have to apply ice, otherwise it would completely engorge and a vast amount of damage would occur.

It happens during the day to a lesser extent and again in the evening. I feel sick about it. Nose flushing is something I LOATHE with a passion. Just when I thought I was well enough to fly too!!!! I really thought I was over this. The severity of it anyway. I was at the point where I was hoping for a further decrease in redness.

Also, what advice would you have for someone who has been taking D3 for months, with a recent increase to 8000IU, and as yet no improvements noted?
The recent increase has caused more flushing and of a different type. Internal, rather than as a reaction to triggers.
Blood serum levels are very high, in the 90's.

I imagine mine must be in the late 80's now.

Thanks as always!

[snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by snuffleupagus

How long should I stay on 1000iu before uping my dose or adding magnesium?
Is it possible that vitamin d makes your hair thinner?

Could be helping flushing a tiny bit it's hard to say so far

Bump!

Also did it help your p&ps?

[Wistar]

Originally Posted by GJ

In respect of what amounts one should take and what reactions might come:

The argument that toxicity will not result from say an intake of 10,000iu a day because that is about what the body produces from 20mins (or whatever it is) of near-naked sunbathing in warm climes is a very potent and persuasive one.

That argument necessarily assumes that Vit D ingested acts no differently, in the body, than vit D naturally produced. People taking Vit D for their rosacea, who attend to their rosacea symptoms in light of their perhaps ever changing intake, are reporting changes in their symptoms as the dose is modified.

Do we imagine that one could attribute change in one's rosacea symptoms from say spending three mintues more (or less) time sunbathing (with a silk balaclava on ) on a particular day?

I took 10,000 iu/day of D3 and immediately noticed side-effects. I had a hot head feeling, like a fever that starts about 1 hour after taking the D3 and lasted for maybe 6-9 hours. By the end of the first week, the side-effects no longer occurred after taking the D3.

In week 5, the side-effects came back. After taking the D3, I had a heated head feeling but this time accompanied with a head-ache that seems to be sourced in the back of the lower head. I took this as a sign to reduce dosage. I dropped to 5000 iu/day. Since dropping the side-effects of D3 have not returned.

I feel taking D3 supplements is not the same as getting D from sunlight. I have never had any side-effects from sunlight. Sunlight always has a positive effect on my papulopustular rosacea. Whilst I am clear of PPR at the moment, I am not convinced it is the D3, as my PPR has been steadily improving over the last 6 months from using acaricides.

At the moment I am continuing at 5000 iu/day.