10th September 2009 11:46 PM
Helicobacter Pylori-my Rosacea has cleared
First of all, I would like to say that my heart goes out to all of you. I am a 30 year old woman and was diagnosed with Rosacea two years ago. I know what it feels like to sit in a movie theatre and feel your face heating up. Holding your Coke against your cheek, knowing you will have to walk out in those bright lights and have your friends stare at the red patches spreading over your face.
Dreading summer, warm restuarants and crying in front of the computer when you read the Rosacea forums, because you fear it will be worse and worse.
I read about Demodex mites, weak face veins that just deteriorate for no reason, Chinese theories that I have a "build up" of heat that only Acupuncture can fix. You name it, I researched and tried it.
The thing that kept bugging me, is why Rosacea " comes and goes". Surely, if I believe wat the doctors say, the veins in my face are shot, so why do they sometimes heal by themselves so I go into remission for a month or two?
It felt cyclic to me, like something builds and builds, reaches a tipping point and creates havoc with my face. After a while, your veins ARE screwed up, so they no longer close at all.
My husband is a doctor and we sat down to figure this out. It resembled an attack on your immune system, where the body tries to fight back at something, loses the battle and imflammation sets it.
We discovered research on something called Helicobacter Pylori, an ugly bacteria that lives in the lining of your stomach and releases a protein called Bradykinin. This protein is known to be a vasodilator (makes your veins expand). Sure enough, when we did blood tests, I had raised Creatinine levels, and creatinine is the stuff that gets left over after your body breaks up a protein (in this case Bradykinin).
We decided to try eradication therapy of H Pylori:
1. Amoxicillin (2 capsules twice a day)
2. Clarithromycin (2 capsules twice a day
3. Omeprazole (1 capsule a day)
For the first three days, nothing happened. On the fouth and fithy day, the Rosacea plaques I had on my cheeks started going away. It cleared up by day six. And on day seven, I put myself through the ulimate test- n stayed in a hot bath for an hour, WHILE drinking a glass of red wine, Two big no-no's.
No red cheeks, no burning, no nothing. I will report on this thread for the next three weeks, an update every second day, to see if this lasts.
Much love to all of you fellow sufferers out there....
12th September 2009 01:56 AM
So is this treatment based on the same SIBO idea? I'm planning on getting a breath test for SIBO, but wondering if i should also test my blood for creatinine? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
14th September 2009 03:19 PM
The Helicobacter Pylori bacterium like the Demodex mite has been right up there on the top 10 list of the main suspected culprits for the cause of rosacea but nobody has ever been able to confirm that it does plays a part.
If you Google “Helicobacter Pylori” and “Rosacea” you will find various information on studies etc: This is taken from one link:
In a study by Turkish researchers, 25 helicobacter pylori-infected rosacea patients were given treatment for H. pylori consisting of the oral antibiotics amoxicillin and metronidazole for two weeks as well as bismuth subcitrate for four weeks.(1) The severity of rosacea symptoms showed a significant decrease at the end of treatment compared with the initial scores.
"It should not be surprising that rosacea symptoms may improve during treatment for H. pylori, since antibiotics have long been successfully used to treat rosacea in all patients," said Dr. Larry Millikan, chairman of dermatology, Tulane University. "Smaller dosages of oral antibiotics are routinely prescribed to bring rosacea under immediate control, along with long-term use of topical antibiotics to maintain remission."
In a more recent controlled clinical study of 44 rosacea patients with H. pylori infection in the United States, half of the patients were treated for H. pylori and half were not. When examined two months after treatment, there was no statistical difference in rosacea symptoms between the treated and untreated groups.(2)
Anyway the good news is that your treatment is helping and I would stick with it. It sounds like though it’s the anti-inflammatory effect of the antibiotics which is the reason rather than anything else.
11th October 2009 11:22 PM